Talk:Roy Hackett

Merge proposal

A one event man, best merge. 2A02:C7E:4351:E700:983D:A468:5EE9:48A7 (talk) 21:14, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose merge. A notable civil rights campaigner with several mentions in reliable sources, independent obituaries and biographical notes. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:34, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose merge. Far from being one event, Hackett's contributions and subsequent legacy changed legislation and British society - as demonstrated by national media coverage of his death, among other things. Zararah (talk) 14:08, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose merge The OP is far off the mark. He died at 93 and would have been easily forgotten if he was ‘just’ a figure of the BBB. Instead, his death made headlines… SinoDevonian (talk) 15:13, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose merge. Notable enough for national news. Skycloud86 (talk) 16:56, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose merge, his death was covered far and wide. Are you going to propose merging Rosa Parks next?PrisonerB (talk) 17:01, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose merge, even the Washington Post took notice. Alansplodge (talk) 12:55, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Honours

I'm having trouble confirming Hackett's honours. It was widely reported that "He was appointed an OBE in 2009 and an MBE in 2020" . I found his MBE in the 2020 Birthday Honours which appears in The London Gazette The Gazette here, but I can find no trace of the 2009 OBE except in the obituary news reports. Also, it seems a bit odd that he was awarded a higher award (OBE = Officer of the Order of the British Empire) before being given a lower award (MBE = Ordinary Member), presumably for the same work. Can anyone solve the puzzle? Alansplodge (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps it's an error in the source used. Other sources like the Telegraph and the Gleaner refer to an MBE in 2009 and the OBE in 2020. But, they could also be wrong if you've found a mention of the MBE in 2020 - it's confirmed by sources like this, which makes no mention of him already having an OBE. This 2020 article and interview makes no mention of his having an OBE. I think the OBE claim is an error, but I don't know where it originated. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:49, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Aha - I think I 've found the source of the error. Here is a 2012 interview with Hackett, in which he says: " Paul Stephenson was our president at the time. He was later made a Freeman of the city, given an OBE [2009] and is currently chairman of the Bristol Legacy Commission. He wanted a group to form so we adopted him and made him our president and spokesperson to the council....". So, it was Stephenson, not Hackett, who was awarded the OBE in 2009. Incidentally, that interview, and the 2020 Guardian interview, look to me like very good sources for expanding the article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:54, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you kindly Ghmyrtle. Final score; Wikipedia 1 - Fleet Street 0. Alansplodge (talk) 08:30, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Resolved

Dear Alansplodge, I am writing on behalf of Roy Hacketts nephew. He is interested in having a word with you! I am new to Wikipedia and not sure how to contact you. Best regards Eide B (talk) 08:08, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

I have replied on my talk page. Alansplodge (talk) 11:20, 11 August 2022 (UTC)