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A fact from Richard Stratton (diplomat) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 January2025(check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Richard Stratton's diplomatic career took him "from South America to Japan, and from Southern Africa to the foothills of the Himalayas"?
Latest comment: 1 year ago7 comments3 people in discussion
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... that Richard Stratton's diplomatic career took him from the Pitcairn Islands to "South America to Japan, and from Southern Africa to the foothills of the Himalayas"?
Source: quote is from The Times - I also added to the hook his relation to the Pitcairn Islands (see e.g. as a ref for him being the territory's governor)
ALT1: ... that Richard Stratton's diplomatic career took him "from South America to Japan, and from Southern Africa to the foothills of the Himalayas"? Source: same
Comment: To do QPQ within 24 hours. ALT1 is just the ALT0 hook without the Pitcairn Islands, which I thought might be an interesting addition. This would be just the fourth DYK bio ever relating to Pitcairn (which is understandable, since they only have a population of 30!)
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11(talk).
Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 278 past nominations.
New enough, long enough and within policy. The hooks are fine and supported by inline citation from reliable sources, but since they contain quotes these should be attributed in the hooks as well, according to WP:DYKHOOKCITE. Only one QPQ done, but I guess backlog-mode was not enabled then? Otherwise we would need another QPQ as well. Yakikaki (talk) 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Yakikaki: Sorry for taking so long to respond. Is there a requirement that quotes need to be attributed in the hook? All I read is that if the source is not willing to say the fact in its own voice, the hook should attribute back to the original source as well. – but I don't think that'd apply, as The Times had that wording in their own voice. But anyway, if it is required, would the modification be something like ALT2: ... that Richard Stratton's diplomatic career, according to The Times, took him "from South America to Japan, and from Southern Africa to the foothills of the Himalayas"? That does seem kind of less "hook-y," though. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for getting back about this. On closer look and second though I realise you are probably – and hopefully – right. I would also prefer the original hook to be honest, but thanks for providing an ALT in any case. Yakikaki (talk) 08:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
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New enough, long enough and within policy. The hooks are fine and supported by inline citation from reliable sources, but since they contain quotes these should be attributed in the hooks as well, according to WP:DYKHOOKCITE. Only one QPQ done, but I guess backlog-mode was not enabled then? Otherwise we would need another QPQ as well. Yakikaki (talk) 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back about this. On closer look and second though I realise you are probably – and hopefully – right. I would also prefer the original hook to be honest, but thanks for providing an ALT in any case. Yakikaki (talk) 08:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)