Talk:Retelling
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 00:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
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- ... that retelling of classic tales is a common occurrence? Source: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/publications/retelling-stories-across-time-and-cultures
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
| General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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| Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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| Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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| QPQ: Done. |
Overall: 
Overall, the article meets all the criteria for warranting a DYK blurb, and QPQ has been satisfied, but I'm concerned that your proposed hook, in my opinion, doesn't seem that interesting or attention-grabbing. Do you think there's something else interesting you could bring up about retelling aside from how common it is? JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Sure. How about: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that retelling of stories has led to emergence of, among others, feminist retellings focusing on previously marginalized or inexistent female characters?
- Piotrus, that definitely sounds more interesting, though if I could make an edit to the phrasing, maybe something like:
- ... that the feminist retelling of stories can focus on previously nonexistent or marginalized female characters?
- Let me know if this sounds good to you. JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:24, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Yep, it does :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great! I have no further concerns and will go ahead and approve that alt. JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Returned from Q7 per this post at WP:ERRORS as both article and hook need further work. Gatoclass (talk) 22:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Neither me nor the reviewer were pinged and we just noticed this - please WP:ECHO relevant editors in the future, if you could. This seems like a very minor issue; I've added "nonexistent or marginalized" to the article body (fair point those words should be used there, thanks for noticing I forgot to elaborate there on this issue). Regarding the sentence " properly retold story should convince the reader to see the new version as more correct" I really do not see what's wrong with it, but I'll ping a friendly copyeditor and native speaker Nihil novi and perhaps they, or the reviewer JJonahJackalope, would like to comment on this or rewrite it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've done some copyediting of the article which I hope will be helpful. Nihil novi (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. @JJonahJackalope: - can you re-check it again? TIA. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Piotrus:, I have reread the article and I believe that the edits have improved the quality of the page. Taking into account the post at WP:ERRORS, mentioned earlier in this discussion, would you be okay with a slightly reformulated version of their recommended DYK hook:
- Thank you. @JJonahJackalope: - can you re-check it again? TIA. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've done some copyediting of the article which I hope will be helpful. Nihil novi (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Neither me nor the reviewer were pinged and we just noticed this - please WP:ECHO relevant editors in the future, if you could. This seems like a very minor issue; I've added "nonexistent or marginalized" to the article body (fair point those words should be used there, thanks for noticing I forgot to elaborate there on this issue). Regarding the sentence " properly retold story should convince the reader to see the new version as more correct" I really do not see what's wrong with it, but I'll ping a friendly copyeditor and native speaker Nihil novi and perhaps they, or the reviewer JJonahJackalope, would like to comment on this or rewrite it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the retelling of stories can focus on female characters to reflect the feminist perspective?
- Let me know what you think. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: Sound good. I've named it ALT2 and the previous ALT1, and I am fine with your ALT2, I think it represents the main point in a simple and elegant way. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:32, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Is everything good to go now? The nomination technically times out in a week, so just making sure everything's resolved so this can finally run. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:52, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Since the previous reviewer has proposed ALT2, a new reviewer should check it just to be safe. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:15, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
GTG. No issues with the article or the hook. 💽 🌙Eclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (CALL ME IF YOU GET LOST) 12:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
