Talk:Regar

Sources

Please do not add statements to this article unless you provide a reliable source that verifies them. Similarly, do not remove reliably sourced information that is already present. I am well aware that various people do not like the idea that their community has any sort of connection to the Chamar people but that is how it is - Wikipedia is not censored. - Sitush (talk) 07:31, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

They are seeker of truth from thousands of years, there're enough evidence of it. So they never worried about any propaganda. Who ever was a true saint, they became associated with him. Swikilib (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

1. According to Census of India 1891, Rehgar caste was categorised (which is now known as Regar/Raigar) under Class V ARTISANS( page 196) in Group 11 (Salt and Lime workers, page 197) as Rehgar.

Whereas, Chamar Caste is separately mentioned under Class VII ( page 199).

https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/

2. According to Census of India 1901, even here Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste and Chamar /Jatav are seperately mentioned in 1901 Census of India.

For Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste refer to page 343-344 and for Chamar caste refer to page 320.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/ideologie/data/CensusIndia/CensusIndia1901/CensusIndia1901IndiaTables.pdf

3. Similarly, According to Census of India 1911 (page ) and Census of India 1921 (page 158), Raigar/ Regar belongs to Rajputana.

Even here Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste and Chamar /Jatav are seperately mentioned.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/ideologie/data/CensusIndia/CensusIndia1921/CensusIndia1921IndiaTables.pdf

4. In Census of India, 1931, a combined caste list of selected caste was presented.

5. In 1936, The official Scheduled caste (lower caste) list was presented by the Government of India in which there is no mention of Raigar/Regar caste.

Therefore Raigar caste was not a scheduled caste.

https://socialjustice.gov.in/public/ckeditor/upload/82951673327147.PDF Naveen3992 (talk) 09:37, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Added new citations for Rehgars as saltpetre workers.

I've added some citations of books published around the end of the 19th century that state "Rehgars" as saltpetre works in Rajasthan. The books seem reliable(Google books). It also includes the census report of 1901. Please review. Hopefully the new changes can be kept.

This page is being edited by people too many times. My changes get overridden in a few hours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sub5459 (talk • contribs) 05:34, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

You've gathered wrong information. They are not responsible for lake of resources in North India. They are seeker of truth from thousands of years. Swikilib (talk) 08:02, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Wrong information

Plss sir dlt your wrong information Regar cast is not chamar Regar cast is rangad rajput,sagarvanshi xatriy Yogesh regar shivraj bhai (talk) 17:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Yogesh regar shivraj bhai You need to cite reliable, independent sources, to support your assertion, before it can be considered. - Arjayay (talk) 17:29, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

They are seeker of truth from thousands of years, there're enough evidence of it. So they never worried about any propaganda. Who ever was a true saint, they became associated with him. Swikilib (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

1. According to Census of India 1891, Rehgar caste was categorised (which is now known as Regar/Raigar) under Class V ARTISANS( page 196) in Group 11 (Salt and Lime workers, page 197) as Rehgar.

Whereas, Chamar Caste is separately mentioned under Class VII ( page 199).

https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/

2. According to Census of India 1901, even here Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste and Chamar /Jatav are seperately mentioned in 1901 Census of India.

For Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste refer to page 343-344 and for Chamar caste refer to page 320.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/ideologie/data/CensusIndia/CensusIndia1901/CensusIndia1901IndiaTables.pdf

3. Similarly, According to Census of India 1911 (page ) and Census of India 1921 (page 158), Raigar/ Regar belongs to Rajputana.

Even here Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste and Chamar /Jatav are seperately mentioned.

http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/ideologie/data/CensusIndia/CensusIndia1921/CensusIndia1921IndiaTables.pdf

4. In Census of India, 1931, a combined caste list of selected caste was presented.

5. In 1936, The official Scheduled caste (lower caste) list was presented by the Government of India in which there is no mention of Raigar/Regar caste.

Therefore Raigar caste was not a scheduled caste.

https://socialjustice.gov.in/public/ckeditor/upload/82951673327147.PDF Naveen3992 (talk) 09:40, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Wrong information

Hello i would to make a concern and raised up suggestion. regarding this fault wrong information which is keep on updating. regar/raigars doesn't belong to any chamar community neither a sub-caste nor anything part of it. Raigar caste follow hindusim and language is from marwar region of rajasthan. it's me request stop misleading people by giving wrong information. regar ancestors were warriors and known as Raghuvanshi Kshatriya. it's my kind request please work on it. Thanks 183.83.212.216 (talk) 04:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done - as stated above, you need to cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:38, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

They are seeker of truth from thousands of years, there're enough evidence of it. So they never worried about any propaganda. Who ever was a true saint, they became associated with him. Swikilib (talk) 08:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Swikilib, you need to stop copying that seeker of truth from thousands of years [etc.] thing to every talk page section. It's not helpful and is disruptive. El_C 18:03, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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"https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=425167606456406&set=a.302500402056461" "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4v3ru4dp6Y" "Recently chief minister of Rajasthan addressed the annual meeting of the society." Swikilib (talk) 17:24, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: This needs independent secondary coverage to demonstrate that it is noteworthy. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:51, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict)  Not done. I can't read that page or understand that video. But, generally, Facebook and YouTube are not considered reliable sources. See WP:RS, WP:FACEBOOK, WP:YOUTUBE. Please remember that this is the English Wikipedia, so again, the WP:BURDEN is on you to prove both the factual veracity and appropriateness of whatever additions you're proposing — to the English-speaking editorial pool. El_C 17:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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This is a false information. regar/raigars doesn't belong to any chamar community neither a sub-caste nor anything part of it. Raigar caste follow hindusim and language is from marwar region of rajasthan. it's me request stop misleading people by giving wrong information. regar ancestors were warriors and known as Raghuvanshi Kshatriya. it's my kind request please work on it. 121.46.85.79 (talk) 13:01, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: This exact request, word-for-word, was made 11 months ago, and it was declined. I am declining it again, for the exact same reason: you need to provide reliable sources. Tollens (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Raigar caste is not related to Chamar/Jatav

Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197.

Whereas Chamar is a separate caste belongs to Class VII. Leather Workers and the Lower

Village Menials ( page 199)

Reliable sources

1. Page 196, Class V Artisans, GROUP 11.

Salt and Lime Workers(Page 197) , Rehgars, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/

2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 11:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Please reply Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 08:02, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Raigar caste is not related to Chamar/Jatav

Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197.

Whereas Chamar is a separate caste belongs to Class VII. Leather Workers and the Lower

Village Menials ( page 199)

Reliable sources

1. Page 196, Class V Artisans, GROUP 11.

Salt and Lime Workers(Page 197) , Rehgars, General Report on the Census of India, 1891

https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/

2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891

https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 11:37, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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Raigar caste is not related to Chamar/Jatav Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197. Whereas Chamar is a separate caste belongs to Class VII. Leather Workers and the Lower Village Menials ( page 199) Reliable sources Page 196, Class V Artisans, GROUP 11. Salt and Lime Workers(Page 197) , Rehgars, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ 2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ 121.46.85.79 (talk) 12:33, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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Raigar caste is not related to Chamar/Jatav Raigar / Rehgars caste (Artisans) comes under Class V Artisans and belongs to group 11 mentioned on page 197. Whereas Chamar is a separate caste belongs to Class VII. Leather Workers and the Lower Village Menials ( page 199) Reliable sources Page 196, Class V Artisans, GROUP 11. Salt and Lime Workers(Page 197) , Rehgars, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ 2. Page 199, Class VII, Leather workers and the Lower menials, General Report on the Census of India, 1891https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/library/resource/general-report-on-the-census-of-india-1891/ 121.46.85.79 (talk) 06:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done I can't see that the sources support that? Theroadislong (talk) 15:04, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello Theroadislong @Theroadislong

Thankyou for replying. This source clearly mention Rehgar(which is now known as Regar) on page 197 under Class V Artisans in Group 11(Salt and Lime workers) as Rehgar.

Whereas , Chamar and Jatav is mentioned in Class VII on page 199. which means both are different group of people and different community and doesn’t belong to each other. Regar (Rehgar) is not related to chamar.

This wrong information is mentioned on article Regar. Rehgar is not an ethnic group of Chamar/Jatav. I am unable to edit article Regar.

please kindly check the above details.

Rehgars are now known as Regar/ Rehgar/Raigar.

Please let me know what more reliable source, I need to present

It would be really helpful Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 17:07, 14

Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 17:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

That sounds like original research/synthesis. Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

@Theroadislong

It is clearly mentioned in the historical original document. It is clearly stating the facts.

how it can be synthesis?

can’t i edit the article ? Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 17:41, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

@Theroadislong Please, It’s a request

Can you please help me edit this 121.46.85.79 (talk) 18:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

The 1891 census fails WP:RAJ, it is not a reliable source, as explained here - Arjayay (talk) 19:55, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Arjayay@Theroadislong

Thankyou for giving your precious time in reviewing my edit.

So according to WP:RAJ fails and is not a reliable resource according to it but

As explained here , Census of India,

In the 1901 Census of India, the category of varna, the four-fold ritual ranking system of Vedic Hinduism, was included in the official classification of caste.

Even here Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste and Chamar /Jatav are seperately mentioned in 1901 Census of India .

For Regar/ Rehgar/ Raigar Caste refer to page 343-344, 1901 Census of India

For Chamar/Jatav caste refer to page 320 , 1901 Census of India

According to Census of India 1901, Rehgar/Regar/Raigar caste is not a sub group of Chamar/Jatav caste but is itself a separate caste

Even After Independence of India 1947, According to The Census of India 1951,

Regar/Rehgar/Raigar is a separate caste and is not a subgroup of Chamar/Jatav, page 3-4, Estimated Population by Castes, 24, 1951 - Census 1951

Chamar is mentioned separately and Regar/Rehgar/Raigar has been mentioned separately which a evidence to prove they both are different and are not related to each other

Are these a reliable source now to make the changes on the article Regar?

please help me how to edit the article Regar as the information is wrong about a caste on this article. Wating for the reply. Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 08:10, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Honeysingh1234321 We need modern sources, not old ones whose foundation was the discredited theory of scientific racism. I am adding suitable material. - Sitush (talk) 12:12, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Thankyou for taking my point into consideration!

but How come after independence government census sources become old? Instead they are the real evidence to proof that Regar caste is not related to chamar caste.

All caste in India are based upon ancient times.

Regar caste is strictly not associated nor related to chamar caste.

Few people of regar caste due to poverty started working as leather worker due to which they got highlighted as leather worker but it is Wrong information you have added that regars were untouchable dalit.

Basically Regars were Artisans clearly mentioned in the census of India. They are clearly not connected to Chamar caste.

Nor they were Dalits. Dalits are those who were given lower status in the ancient times. Raigars are Artisans.

You can’t call a caste directly untouchable / Dalit.

Please remove these two statements untouchable/ Dalit and chamar from the article as these are not the truth.

please reply 121.46.85.79 (talk) 14:04, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sitush

waiting for the reply Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 14:05, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Honeysingh1234321 See WP:RS. You are not going to "win" this one. Numerous people from numerous caste groups have tried and failed over the years but the consensus of the Wikipedia community remains constant: we consider modern academic sources to be the most reliable for our purposes. There is, of course, nothing to stop you writing differently on some other website ... but not here. - Sitush (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Please it’s a request. My career depends on these two statements.

Please remove these two statements untouchable/ Dalit and chamar from the article as these are not the truth. 121.46.85.79 (talk) 14:29, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sitush 121.46.85.79 (talk) 14:30, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikipeda is not concerned with your "truth" we base articles on what reliable independent sources say. Theroadislong (talk) 14:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Theroadislong@Sitush

here I am citing the modern reliable sources about the Regar caste from a recent book published in 2011.

Regar belonged to Kshatriya mentioned in the book by the Indian Author CHANDANMAL NAVAL

Book publisher, RAJASTHANI GRANTHAGAR, JODHPUR

Book title “रैगर जाति - Regar Caste (History and Culture)”

Please read page 57-59, Regars were kshatriya. They are not untouchables.

Please ready page number 35-38, Regars are not related to Chamar Regars were not Dalit.

The editor of the article Regar mentioned the caste as untouchables according to an anthropologist book writer.

please check the above facts

and do reply

waiting for the reply Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 14:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Honeysingh1234321 What qualifications does that author have? And what is their connection to the caste, if any? I've never heard of the publisher, which isn't a good start. - Sitush (talk) 14:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Actually, Rajasthani Granthagar Jodhpur sounds like a vanity publisher, judging by the info for authors at their website. See WP:SPS. - Sitush (talk) 15:00, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sitush the author is an old Indian author. Is qualification of the author necessary? If yes then,

here I am citing another modern book published in 2018 on Regar history and origin whose author, P.N. Rachoya is well qualified and has taken a degree in BALLB, LLM, Phd and is highly qualified author.

Book titlte, “रैगर जाति की उत्पत्ति व सम्पूर्ण इतिहास- Origin and Complete History of Regar Caste”

Publisher KIRTI PUBLICATIONS, JAIPUR

it is clearly mentioned even in this book that Regar are kshatriya

Please read page number 43- 48 , here

and also Regar doesn’t relate to any other caste, on page 51-59 , here

I believe these are modern sources according to you to prove the above facts. Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 15:29, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Theroadislong@Sitush Please reply Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 15:30, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Honeysingh1234321 Kirti Jaipur doesn't even seem to have a website.

I'm sorry but it is obvious from your messages that you are not reading the information given in links - most notably, WP:RS - and that you are here with the sole purpose of wanting to sanskritise a community which is widely accepted actually to be Dalit. I am going to leave a note on your talk page and you really, really should pay attention to it because I will not be responding further to you here. - Sitush (talk) 15:44, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sitush I am sorry but I already have the books with me. I have read both the books thoroughly and the kirti publications is in no more active. The author is highly educated.

I am not trying to sanskitise a community. But as you said you wanted modern sources . You changed the facts according to a book . I gave you the correct facts according to books.

In a country like India wvey author doesn’t go to big publishers.

I gave you the books which are sold all over india.

but I didn’t knew you have some personal grudges against changing the facts which I proved Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 16:08, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Theroadislong@Honeysingh1234321@Sitush 121.46.85.79 (talk) 16:45, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Honeysingh1234321 No grudges - see WP:NPA. The publisher seems not to be an academic press. I can find no reviews for the book. I can find no academic citing it. I can find nothing that suggests Rach(h)oya is a faculty member anywhere. In fact, the only P N Rachoya I have found is or was In the IPS. I have tried my best to do Hindi searches also.

Even if he was reliable, we wouldn't remove the mentions of Chamar or Dalit from the article because there are a bunch of definitely reliable sources to support them. At best, we would just add that Rachoya disagrees with those numerous people - we have to be neutral but also assign due weight. But this is moot because he seems not in fact to be reliable and I feel like my time is being wasted now. - Sitush (talk) 16:47, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sitush thankyou for considering . Then please just add “ At best, we would just add that Rachoya disagrees with those numerous people

thankyou for Your precious time . Honeysingh1234321 (talk) 17:03, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Honeysingh1234321 No, because he isn't reliable! We can't state the opinions of every Tom, Dick or Harriet just because they are in print or on some website, only the different opinions of reliable sources. It doesn't look like even now you have read WP:RS. Any more of this and the provisos at WP:TE and WP:CIR might cause you to be blocked or topic banned under the sanctions I posted on your talk page. - Sitush (talk) 17:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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What is the true history of the Raigars of Rajasthan? The Raigar community in Rajasthan, India, has a rich history that is closely linked with the Rajputs, who are a major community in the region known for their valor and chivalry. The Raigars are considered to be a sub-caste of the Rajputs. They are believed to be descendants of the Rajput clans and have a history of military service and land ownership.

The Raigars have traditionally been involved in agriculture, landowning, and military service. They have a reputation for bravery and loyalty, traits that are highly valued in Rajasthani society. Many Raigar families have a history of serving in the armed forces of various princely states in Rajasthan.

It is important to note that the history of the Raigars, like many other communities in India, is complex and multifaceted. Different regions and subgroups within the community may have their own unique histories, traditions, and customs. As with any community, the history of the Raigars is shaped by a variety of factors including social, cultural, and political influences over time.

If you are interested in a specific aspect of the history of the Raigars or have a particular question in mind, please feel free to provide more details so I can offer more targeted information.

Reigar (Rahgar ,Regar) cast is famous as verma cast. It is topmost leading cast in india .it is number one in position among all hindu cast .it is rulling over all over the world .it is a cast free socity .It allows both intercast and same cast merriages without any resistance .This cast opposes drowry system.girls sex ratio in verma cast is higher as compare to boys .Boys demand is higher as compare to girls in this cast .This cast is producing famous doctor ,Iitian,actors and actress,businesman and businesswomen .it's bussiness is established in india and abroad successfully .It is very less in population but number one leading cast in india .this cast is already progressive it's not need any kind of reservation .this cast is orignate from rajput cast and higer in position but latter british govt crush this .after long time of struggle this is topmost cast in india .this cast has so much talent they don't need any kind of reservation .

After a lots of research and studying theories, I have found all the facts related to True History of Raigars :-

Raigars are the descendants of ancient Malava Tribe, who had their own republic states in the South of Punjab and North of Rajputana during Mahabharata.

Malava Tribe was originated from Maharaja Rishi Ashwapati of Madra Kingdom, who was a descendant of Lord Rama and hence a Suryavanshi Kshatriya ruler of Madra Kingdom. He had a only daughter named Savitri who was married to Prince Satyavan of Shalva Kingdom. According to Tale of Satyavan Savitri, Savitri granted a boon from Yamaraja (God of Death) she and her father will be blessed with 100 sons. And regarding this, those hundred sons of King Ashwapati named as Malav after their mother's name Malavi. According to genealogy of Madra King, during Mahabharata King Shalya was ruler of Madra Kingdom who was also maternal uncle of Pandavas.

Afterwards, all those warrior princes Malavas settled themselves between the region of doab in Punjab and lived there as a union. They hadn't have any King but a chieftain who was granted a title of Raja/Naresh.

During Mahabharata war, this tribe fought from both the sides of Kauravas and Pandavas. Elephant Ashwatthama, who was killed by Bheemsen, was of Malava chieftain IndraVerma. Many of Malavas were martyred in this war.

Malavas had 100 clans which was originated from 100 Malav Princes, and after the Battle of Hydspes, Malavas along with Kshudrakas (descendants of Kosala king Kshudrak) formed an alliance to face Alexander the great, and with the help of Kathi Kshatriyas, they bravely faced Alexander by which he got injured but they were defeated so they left Punjab region and occupied the region of Eastern Rajputana, at Karkotaka (near Tonk) and then they occupied the region of Ujjain where that place was today also known as Malwa Plateau.

Emperor Vikramaditya, son of Malav King Gandharwasen and grandson of Nabovahana, established monarchial rule who was a member of Parmar/ Panwar clan of Malavas. And the only ruling dynasty from the Malavas was the Parmar dynasty who ruled till 1947.

Malavas along with Kshudrakas who formed a union , resulted in the uprising of 350+ clans of Malavas because union resulted Kshudrakas emerged in the Malava tribe.

Other clans else of Parmar dynasty, who were also Raghuvanshi Kshatriyas from the dynastical roots from Ayodhya and also were descendants of Shri Ram, were named as Raghu tribe which in time to time corrupted to Raghur -> Raigur -> Raigar, they all were known as Raigars today.

But what they had their ancestral occupation of warfare and crop production, they served as as peasants and warrior soldiers in different states of ancient Rajputana who also fought many wars and battles against Turks and Mughals.

During the 1st Shaka and Jauhar of Chittorgarh, when Rawal Ratan Singh was ruler of Mewar, Shri ShivShankar Mandawariya ji, who commanded army of Raigars martyred in that battle and his wife Jajorini (daughter of Udaji Jajoria) committed Sati.

During the battle between Muhammad Ghori and Emperor Prithviraj Chauhan, Shri Gunjal Sunwasiya served and fought from Rajputs side and martyred. His samadhi was placed near the Old Fort till after some times of Independence.

During the battle of Alaniawas, fought between Rajputs under Thakur Kushal Singh of Auwa and Britishers, Sugnoji and Hadmanoji were fought bravely and martyred.

Raigars who besides in the region of Bharatpur, Karauli, Dholpur joined the Jatava movement started by Swami Achhutanand Maharaj, took the title Jatava (also Chamaras) and hence they called as Jatavas or Chamaras.

Else of these Raigars, other Raigars moved with the Parmar chiefs (in Punjab under Baba Bachhittar Singh Panwar, Ranas of Umarkot in Sindh, & Rulers of Muli in Gujarat) to different parts of India.

Many of the Raigars were also granted and awarded with the titles of Raje in Punjab, Lamberdar/Nambardar in Delhi Haryana, Chaudhary in Rajasthan, which was also the titles of Rajputs. So why Raigars were known as Dalits?🤦‍♂️

But only because of Raigars of Eastern Rajputana (Bharatpur Karauli Dholpur region) whole of the Raigar tribe named under the scheduled caste list along with chamaras, bhambi, mochi and others too. Which is so much shameful for this ancient warrior tribe's respect as 6 states of northern India listed Raigars in their SC list.

Edit 1: Raigars are not leather tanners or dalits, they are Kshatriya warriors of Raghuvanshi dynasty.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.172.73.175 (talk) 20:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

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The Regar (also spelled as Raigar, Rehgar, Raigarh, Ranigar and Rehgarh)are a caste group of India. The Regar are found in the states of Punjab, Haryana, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan. They are known as Regar in the Mewar region of Rajasthan. Language: Dhundari – (dhd)

Primary Religion: Hinduism                    Population: 2,845,000(Mainly found in Rajasthan) Regar follow Hinduism religion and belong to kshtriya varna. Raigar are classified as a Scheduled Caste (SC) by the Government of India. Raigar were placed in SC category during the formation of Indian Constitution in 1950 because they were socially backward and being oppressed during British rule. In some parts on India like Assam and southern states of India they were categorised in Other Backward Castes. Some historians historically proven that Regar origin was originally from Raghuvanshi Kshatriyas and Belonged to Rajputana.

Raigars had served in the armies of the local Rajput kings.

Once leatherworkers,at the beginning of the 20th century, the British Raj administration imposed restrictions on the indigenous manufacturing of saltpetre which destroyed their livelihood.At least some community members served as bonded labour (begari) during the British Raj era. British and landlords exploited them and force them to work in farms as labour . 2405:205:1208:D087:0:0:890:20AD (talk) 06:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 22:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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The Regar (also spelled as Raigar, Rehgar, Raigarh, Ranigar and Rehgarh)are a caste group of India. The Regar are found in the states of Punjab, Haryana, Gujarat, Himachal Pradesh and Rajasthan. They are known as Regar in the Mewar region of Rajasthan. Language: Dhundari – (dhd)

Primary Religion: Hinduism                    Population: 2,845,000(Mainly found in Rajasthan) Regar follow Hinduism religion and belong to kshtriya varna. Raigar are classified as a Scheduled Caste (SC) by the Government of India. Raigar were placed in SC category during the formation of Indian Constitution in 1950 because they were socially backward and being oppressed during British rule. In some parts on India like Assam and southern states of India they were categorised in Other Backward Castes. Some historians historically proven that Regar origin was originally from Raghuvanshi Kshatriyas and Belonged to Rajputana.

Raigars had served in the armies of the local Rajput kings.

Once leatherworkers,at the beginning of the 20th century, the British Raj administration imposed restrictions on the indigenous manufacturing of saltpetre which destroyed their livelihood.At least some community members served as bonded labour (begari) during the British Raj era. British and landlords exploited them and force them to work in farms as labour .Raigars are the descendants of ancient Malava Tribe, who had their own republic states in the South of Punjab and North of Rajputana during Mahabharata.

Malava Tribe was originated from Maharaja Rishi Ashwapati of Madra Kingdom, who was a descendant of Lord Rama and hence a Suryavanshi Kshatriya ruler of Madra Kingdom. He had a only daughter named Savitri who was married to Prince Satyavan of Shalva Kingdom. According to Tale of Satyavan Savitri, Savitri granted a boon from Yamaraja (God of Death) she and her father will be blessed with 100 sons. And regarding this, those hundred sons of King Ashwapati named as Malav after their mother's name Malavi. According to genealogy of Madra King, during Mahabharata King Shalya was ruler of Madra Kingdom who was also maternal uncle of Pandavas.

Afterwards, all those warrior princes Malavas settled themselves between the region of doab in Punjab and lived there as a union. They hadn't have any King but a chieftain who was granted a title of Raja/Naresh.

During Mahabharata war, this tribe fought from both the sides of Kauravas and Pandavas. Elephant Ashwatthama, who was killed by Bheemsen, was of Malava chieftain IndraVerma. Many of Malavas were martyred in this war.

Malavas had 100 clans which was originated from 100 Malav Princes, and after the Battle of Hydspes, Malavas along with Kshudrakas (descendants of Kosala king Kshudrak) formed an alliance to face Alexander the great, and with the help of Kathi Kshatriyas, they bravely faced Alexander by which he got injured but they were defeated so they left Punjab region and occupied the region of Eastern Rajputana, at Karkotaka (near Tonk) and then they occupied the region of Ujjain where that place was today also known as Malwa Plateau.

Emperor Vikramaditya, son of Malav King Gandharwasen and grandson of Nabovahana, established monarchial rule who was a member of Parmar/ Panwar clan of Malavas. And the only ruling dynasty from the Malavas was the Parmar dynasty who ruled till 1947.

Malavas along with Kshudrakas who formed a union , resulted in the uprising of 350+ clans of Malavas because union resulted Kshudrakas emerged in the Malava tribe.

Other clans else of Parmar dynasty, who were also Raghuvanshi Kshatriyas from the dynastical roots from Ayodhya and also were descendants of Shri Ram, were named as Raghu tribe which in time to time corrupted to Raghur -> Raigur -> Raigar, they all were known as Raigars today.

But what they had their ancestral occupation of warfare and crop production, they served as as peasants and warrior soldiers in different states of ancient Rajputana who also fought many wars and battles against Turks and Mughals.

During the 1st Shaka and Jauhar of Chittorgarh, when Rawal Ratan Singh was ruler of Mewar, Shri ShivShankar Mandawariya ji, who commanded army of Raigars martyred in that battle and his wife Jajorini (daughter of Udaji Jajoria) committed Sati.

During the battle between Muhammad Ghori and Emperor Prithviraj Chauhan, Shri Gunjal Sunwasiya served and fought from Rajputs side and martyred. His samadhi was placed near the Old Fort till after some times of Independence.

Raigars who besides in the region of Bharatpur, Karauli, Dholpur joined the Jatava movement started by Swami Achhutanand Maharaj, took the title Jatava (also Chamaras) and hence they called as Jatavas or Chamaras.

Else of these Raigars, other Raigars moved with the Parmar chiefs (in Punjab under Baba Bachhittar Singh Panwar, Ranas of Umarkot in Sindh, & Rulers of Muli in Gujarat) to different parts of India.

Many of the Raigars were also granted and awarded with the titles of Raje in Punjab, Lamberdar/Nambardar in Delhi Haryana, Chaudhary in Rajasthan, which was also the titles of Rajputs. So why Raigars were known as Dalits?

I am citing the modern reliable sources about the Regar caste from a recent book published in 2011.Regar belonged to Kshatriya mentioned in the book by the Indian Author CHANDANMAL NAVALBook publisher, RAJASTHANI GRANTHAGAR, JODHPURBook title “रैगर जाति - Regar Caste (History and Culture)”Please read page 57-59, Regars were kshatriya. They are not untouchables.Please ready page number 35-38, Regars are not related to Chamar Regars were not Dalit.The editor of the article Regar mentioned the caste as untouchables according to an anthropologist book writer.

Raigars are not leather tanners or dalits, they are Kshatriya warriors of Raghuvanshi dynasty. 2405:205:1208:D087:0:0:890:20AD (talk) 07:02, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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Vishal regar (talk) 17:44, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedia Editorial Team,

I hope you are doing well.

I am writing to request a revision to certain lines in the article that incorrectly conflate the "Regar" and "Chamar" communities. It is important to clarify that Regar are not the same as Chamar and should not be mixed together. The Regar community, in particular, has historically faced social and economic challenges, and it is essential that the distinction between these communities is maintained for accuracy.

Additionally, it is important to address the historical context of forced labor and social marginalization faced by the Regar community. We have been subjected to low-status work over time, and this should be recognized with respect to our history.

I kindly request that the relevant sections of the article be updated to reflect these points, with clear distinction between the Regar and Chamar communities, and an accurate representation of the Regar community's struggles.

Thank you for your time and attention to this matter. I look forward to the necessary revisions being made.

Best regards, Vishal regar

 Not done changes need to be suggested with regard to valid reliable sources not on what you or I know. Theroadislong (talk) 18

03, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Dear Admin,

Please remove this post as it contains misleading and false information. Your claims are inaccurate, and I am prepared to take legal action if necessary. If required, I am willing to pursue this matter in court to ensure justice prevails.

This post is causing significant distress to individuals of this caste, amounting to mental harassment. Despite multiple requests for its removal, no action has been taken, and misleading information continues to be circulated. This also falls under social abuse, and I am officially reporting it. Let the National Helpline Against Atrocities handle this matter.

I trust in the Indian legal system to address this appropriately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JitendraMourya123 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

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Dear Admin,

Please remove this post as it contains misleading and false information. Your claims are inaccurate, and I am prepared to take legal action if necessary. If required, I am willing to pursue this matter in court to ensure justice prevails. Raigar and chambers are totally different. You are associating them with each other which is false claim.

This post is causing significant distress to individuals of this caste, amounting to mental harassment. Despite multiple requests for its removal, no action has been taken, and misleading information continues to be circulated. This also falls under social abuse, and I am officially reporting it. Let the National Helpline Against Atrocities handle this matter.

I trust in the Indian legal system to address this appropriately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JitendraMourya123 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Wrong Information

Historically it is proven that Regars are originally Kshatriyas and belonged to Rajputana.

According to Census of India 1891, the Regar caste was classified as Regar (now known as Regar/Raigar) in Group 11 (Salt and Lime Workers, page 197) under Class V Artisans (page 196), while Chamar caste is mentioned separately under Class VII (page 199). Reference https://censusindia.gov.in/nada/index.php/catalog/28412

According to Census of India 1901, here also Raigar/Regar/Regar caste and Chamar/Jatav are mentioned separately in Census of India 1901. For Raigar/Regar/Regar caste see page 343-344 and for Chamar caste see page 320. Reference https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.30982

Similarly, according to Census of India 1911 (page 158) and Census of India 1921 (page 158), Raigar/Regar belongs to Rajputana. Here also Raigar/Regar/Regar caste and Chamar/Jatav are mentioned separately. Reference https://censusindia.gov.in/nada/index.php/catalog/32444

The Census of India, 1931 presented a combined caste list of selected castes. In 1936, the official Scheduled Caste list was presented by the Government of India in which there is no mention of Regar/Regar caste. Hence the Regar caste was not a Scheduled Caste. Reference https://socialjustice.gov.in/public/ckeditor/upload/82951673327147.PDF

The certificate submitted by the “Rajasthan Provincial Hindu Mahasabha, Ajmer, Rajasthan” dated 28 July 1941 states “It is certified that following the scriptures, ancient history and previous texts proves that the Regar caste is a Suryavanshi branch originating from the regional, hence all Hindu Aryan men and women are requested to treat them like regional Rajputs.”

After the independence of India, in the census of 1951, Regar/Regar caste was suddenly mentioned in the Scheduled Caste.

An ancient step well of the Regar community is present in village Hurda, district Bhilwara (Rajasthan) and an inscription is also present there. There are about 150 families of Regars there. Elderly people of 70-80 years say about the step well of Kana Udeniya that when our forefathers were alive, they used to say about this step well that this step well is a thousand years old. This step well is adjacent to the Regars' locality and is in ruins. There is about 40 bigha land attached to this step well which is today in the possession of the Regars of Hurda. At one time, this land was irrigated from this step well. There is a small pillar-like stone in front of this step well on which letters are engraved. It is in simple language and is quite clear. We read the inscription which is as follows-' Shri Ramji Mati Samvat 1062 V. Tithi Vaishakh Budh 2... Regar Kana in Karanaji's estate... The step well is of our caste Udiya Rupesh Pannaji artisan... The inscription is not written by Brahmin Gangaram Sah Harjiram Tated Na Deva's son Kana Nai got it constructed. It is clear from this inscription that this step well was constructed by Kana Regar, gotra Udiyania in Samvat 1062. In this regard, there is a famous couplet 'Kan Khudai Bavdi, Garhpat Hurda village'. It is clear from this inscription that this inscription is 1003 years old. This inscription also proves that this caste was called by the name Regar even 1003 years ago. Hurda is the tehsil headquarters. This subdivision Gulabpura is situated in Bhilwara district. Some years ago it was Hurda subdivision which later got transferred to Gulabpura. This is an old village. There is an ancient temple of Lord Shiva in the middle of Hurda village. There is a stone inscription in front of it. This stone inscription proves that this temple is two thousand years old. This also automatically proves that Hurda village has been inhabited for more than two thousand years. It is said that during the reign of Marathas, Hurda was the district headquarters. Marathas had horses of good breed which were fed with barley taken from this village. This village produced excellent quality barley. The barley here was yellow and large like Harada. Therefore, the name of this village was earlier Harada and later it got corrupted to Hurda. From all these facts, it can be concluded that Hurda village was inhabited more than two thousand years ago. Looking at the present population of Regars in Hurda, Kana Udeniya's step well and the stone inscription, it can be said that Regars have been living in this village since its inception. It is natural that Kana Udeniya's ancestors must have been living there even before he built the step well. Considering all the aspects, it becomes clear that people of the Regar caste lived in Hurda village at least two thousand years ago. The Hurda stone inscription is a very important and solid basis for establishing the antiquity of the Regar caste. Such solid evidence was not available anywhere before this stone inscription. This stone inscription throws light on the aspects like origin, antiquity, system and economic condition of the Regar caste. This is an important inscription regarding the Regar caste. Reference https://www.theraigarsamaj.com/hurda/

Like Haridwar, Pushkar is also a very big pilgrimage place for Hindus. Being the biggest pilgrimage place amongst all the pilgrimage places, it is called Tirtharaj Pushkar. There are a total of 52 ghats in Pushkar lake. The biggest among them is Gau Ghat. This Gau Ghat was built in Samvat 989 by Badri Bakolia(Raigar), a resident of Gundi. It is clearly mentioned in the books of Bahi Bhaats of Fagi. Gundi is a small village which is located near Fagi in Jaipur district (Rajasthan). Reference https://www.theraigarsamaj.com/historical_works_pushkarji/

Despite the above facts, Regar caste is written along with Chamar caste, whereas Regar is not a caste but a clan of Rajput caste which is Suryavanshi Kshatriya branch, just like Rathore Rajput, Chauhan Rajput etc. Regar Rajput. As the years passed, Regar caste was classified in Chamar/Jatav category as their caste group. No one checked the history where the caste was originally classified. Dockstudy (talk) 14:32, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

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Regar Community: A Historical and Cultural Overview

A prominent socio-cultural community of Northern and Western India, with documented roots in ancient Kshatriya lineages and historical inscriptions.

1. Introduction The Regar (also known as Raigar or Rehgar) is an Indian community primarily settled in Rajasthan, Delhi, Haryana, and Punjab. The community identifies with a rich warrior and spiritual heritage, supported by classical literature and colonial-era documentation. Known for their resilience, the Regar people have historically contributed to the regional socio-economic structure and have undergone significant modern transitions through education and social advocacy.

2. Historical and Literary Origins

The community’s history is documented across various classical texts and medieval records:

Classical Literature: References to the community's ancestral roots are found in works such as the Bal Ramayan and Raghukul Chintamani, which align the community's lineage with the Raghuvanshi Kshatriya tradition.

Medieval Records: The Gaj Vilas, a historical text associated with the Marwar region, provides insights into the community's presence and status during the princely era of Rajasthan.

Epigraphic Proof: Inscriptions found in 1,000-year-old stepwells (Baoris) and temples in Rajasthan serve as archaeological evidence of the community’s long-standing settlement and involvement in regional development.

3. Demographic Documentation

The Regar community has been consistently documented in official administrative records since the 19th century:

Mardumshumari Reports: The historical Mardumshumari (Census) reports of the Marwar and Mewar states (dating back to the late 1800s) provide detailed accounts of the community’s population, occupations, and geographic distribution.

Census of India: Since the first modern Census of India (1881, 1891, and 1901), the Regar community has been formally recognized in the official demographic records of the British Raj and, subsequently, the Republic of India. These records track the community's transition from traditional occupations to modern administrative and professional roles.

4. Social Reform and Religious Life

The community is known for its strong internal reform movements and spiritual depth:

Spiritual Awakening: Swami Atmaramji Maharaj is credited with leading a major 20th-century reform movement, encouraging the community to embrace education and Vedic traditions.

Deity Worship: The community holds a special reverence for Baba Ramdevji (Ramdevra), reflecting a spiritual path that emphasizes social equality and justice.

References

1. Primary Historical Texts
   a) Raghukul Chintamani: Classical text documenting the Raghuvanshi lineage and community history.
   b) Bal Ramayan: Ancient literary work referenced in community traditions regarding ancestral origins.
   c) Gaj Vilas: Historical manuscript of Rajasthan detailing regional social structures.
2. Government & Administrative Records
   a) Mardumshumari Report (Marwar/Mewar): Historical Census of the Princely States of India (1890s–1940s).
   b) Census of India (1891, 1901, 1911): Reports by the Superintendent of Census Operations, documenting the Regar community in the Rajputana Agency.
   c) The Constitution (Scheduled Castes) Order, 1931 & 1950: Official recognition and demographic categorization in modern India.
3. Secondary Academic Sources
   i) Sherring, M.A. (1881). The Tribes and Castes of Rajasthan. Calcutta: Office of the Superintendent of Government Printing.
   ii) Singh, K.S. (1998). People of India: Rajasthan (Vol. XXXVIII). Anthropological Survey of India.
   iii) Buswala, B. (2023). Undignified names: caste, politics, and everyday life in North India. Contemporary South Asia.
   iv)- स्वामी जीवारामजी महाराजः श्री रैगरजाति वर्णप्रकाश गोत्रशिक्षा, विक्रमी संवत् 1998 (सन् 1941 ईस्वी) पृष्ठ संख्या 9
   v) स्वामी जीवारामजी महाराजः श्री रैगरजाति वर्णप्रकाश गोत्रशिक्षा, विक्रमी संवत् 1998 (सन् 1941 ईस्वी) पृष्ठ संख्या 9-10
   vi)The word Regar means dyeing in the Rajasthani language....... Despite having a common origin with the Chamar, they are no intermarriages between these two communities. People of India Rajasthan Volume XXXVITI Part Two edited by A.K Lavania, D. K Samanta, Mandal & N.N Vyas pages 819 to 822 Popular Prakashan.
   vii) डॉ. कैलशनाथ व्यास व देवेंद्रसिंह गहलोत राजस्थान की जातियों का सामाजिक एवम् आर्थिक जीवन, 1995 ईस्वी
   viii) कंवर कनकसिंहः धरोहर, राजस्थान का सामान्य ज्ञान, मीणा जाति की शाखायें
   ix) B.K Lavania (यह रैगर लवानिया नहीं है, बल्कि ब्राह्मण लवानिया है।, D. K Samanta, SK Mandal & N.N. Vyas etc.
   x) "राजस्थान के इतिहास की रूप रेखा में डॉ. हरिशंकर शर्मा व सरोज पावा द्वारा "गज विलास" अध्याय 04 के श्लोक में आये 'रेगहर' शब्द का हिंदी अनुवाद 'राजपूत किया गया है।
   xi)श्री चन्दनमल नवल 3.2.5. (rtd.): रैगर जाति का इतिहास, अध्याय रैगर सतियां, पृष्ठ संख्या 61-63
   xii) श्री चिरंजीलाल बोकोलिया व राजेन्द्रप्रसाद गाड़ेगावलियाः रैगर कौन और क्यों ?,1967 ईस्वी: पृष्ठ संख्या 20; मारवाड़ जनगणना रिपोर्ट, 1891 भाग 03 पृष्ठ संख्या 542
   xiii) श्री चन्दनमल नवल 3.2.5. (rtd.): : रैगर जाति का इतिहास, पृष्ठ संख्या 68
   xiv) श्री रूपचंद जलुथरिया रैगर जाति का इतिहासः पृष्ठ संख्या 19
   xv) श्री चन्दनमल नवल R.2.5. (rtd.): रैगर जाति का इतिहासः पृष्ठ संख्या 17
   xvi) पण्डित गौरीशंकर हीराचंद ओझा ने उदयपुर राज्य का इतिहास भाग- 02. परिशिष्ट 02: पृष्ठ संख्या 1135
   xvii) श्री चिरंजीलाल बोकोलिया व राजेन्द्रप्रसाद गाड़ेगावलिया: रैगर कौन और क्यों?, 1967 ईस्वी; पृष्ठ संख्या 22
   xviii) श्री रूपचंद जलुथरिया: रैगर जाति का इतिहासः पृष्ठ संख्या 19
   xix) श्री मांगीलाल पालीवाल: बैरवा समुदाय का इतिहास
   xx) श्री रामफलसिंह 1.P.S. (rtd.) मेघवंशः एक सिन्हावलोकन
   xxi) श्री चिरंजीलाल बोकोलिया व राजेन्द्रप्रसाद गाड़ेगावलिया: रैगर कौन और क्यों?, 1967 ईस्वी; पृष्ठ संख्या 24
   xxii) India. Office of the Registrar General (1969). Census of India, 1961. p. 1070. Retrieved 22 June 2011.
   xxiii) Rehgar (Raigar) caste is, historically associated with the collecting of saltpetre-Jogendranath Bhattacharya:: Hindu Castes. and Sects, 1896: An exposition of the origin of the Hindu caste system and the bearing of the sects towards each other and towards other religious systems.
   xxiv) At the beginning of the 20th century, the British administration imposed restrictions on the indigenous manufacturing of saltpetre which destroyed their (of Regers) livelihood. Szivastava, Kamal Shankar (1998). Origin and development of class and caste in India. Sangeeta Prakashan, 1998. pp.180-190.
   xxv) श्री चिरंजीलाल बोकोलिया व राजेन्द्रप्रसाद गाड़ेगावलिया: रैगर कौन और क्यों?, सन्1 967 ईस्वी; पृष्ठ संख्या 24
   xxvi) स्वामी जीवारामजी महाराजः श्री रैगरजाति वर्णप्रकाश गोत्रशिक्षा, विक्रमी संवत् 1998: सन् 1941 ईस्वी) पृष्ठ संख्या 13
   xxvii) ब्राह्मण महाकवि राजशेखर 19 वीं सदी ईस्वी) बालरामायण, जीवारामजी महाराज:: श्री रैगरजाति वर्णप्रकाश गोत्रशिक्षा, विक्रमी संवत् 1998 (सन् 1941 ईस्वी) पृष्ठ संख्या 8-9
   xxviii) श्री चिरंजीलाल बोकोलिया व राजेन्द्रप्रसाद गाड़ेगावलिया रेगर कौन और क्यों?, सन् 1967 ईस्वी, पृष्ठ संख्या 30
   xxix)श्री चन्दनमल नवल R.P.S. (rtd.):: रैगर जाति का इतिहास, अध्याय रैगर सतियां: पृष्ठ संख्या 61-63
   xxx) श्री चिरंजीलाल बोकोलिया व राजेन्द्रप्रसाद गाड़ेगावलिया: रैगर कौन और क्यों?, सन् 1967 ईस्वी; पृष्ठ संख्या 25
   xxxi) श्री चिरंजीलाल बोकोलिया व राजेन्द्रप्रसाद गाड़ेगावलिया: रैगर कौन और क्यों?, सन् 1967 ईस्वी; पृष्ठ संख्या 20; जोधपुर राज्य की जनगणना रिपोर्ट, सन् 1891 भाग-03 पृष्ठ संख्या 542
   xxxii) स्वामी जीवारामजी महाराज श्री रैगरजाति वर्णप्रकाश गोत्रशिक्षा, विक्रमी संवत् 1998 (सन् 1941 ईस्वी) पृष्ठ संख्या 10
   xxxiii) पंडित ज्वालाप्रसाद जी मिश्रः जाति भाष्कर
   xxxiv) स्वामी जीवारामजी महाराजः श्री रैगरजाति वर्णप्रकाश गोत्रशिक्षा, विक्रमी संवत् 1998 (सन् 1941 ईस्वी) पृष्ठ संख्या 9
   xxxv) स्वामी जीवारामजी महाराज श्री रैगरजाति वर्णप्रकाश गोत्रशिक्षा, विक्रमी संवत् 1998 (सन्1 941 ईस्वी) पृष्ठ संख्या 9-10
   xxxvi) Parthian Stations, An account of land trade route during 01 ac.
   xxxvii) Parthian Stations, An account of land trade route during 01 BC.
   xxxviii) H. W. Bellew:: An Introduction of Ethnography of Afghanistan.
   xxxix) Chhigan Lal, RAIGAR VANS KA VRAHAD ITIHAS,
   xxxx) Chhigan Lal, RAIGAR VANSH EK SINGHAVLOKAN
   xxxxi) The-Tribes-And-Castes-Of-Rajasthan
   xxxxii) People of India: Rajasthan
   xxxxiii) श्री चन्दनमल नवल R.P.S. (rtd.):: रैगरजाति का इतिहासः पृष्ठ संख्या 13

Dear Robertsky, 1brianm7 Please help me to update the artical Regar. Thanks

please do correct regar and chamar are different

Dear please correct this information ,this wrong information regar and chammar are connecting together its is wrong, only wikipedia showing this other not please try to understand i cnot ahow it to my friend 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 ~2026-31305-26 (talk) 18:30, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 July 2026

Request for article update

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I would like to propose revisions to the introduction of this article.

1. The statement that the Regar community is "sometimes associated with the Chamar caste" should be clarified. Several sociological and historical sources describe the Regar (Raigar/Rehgar) community as a distinct caste group, although the communities have historically been associated due to similar traditional occupations related to leatherwork.

2. The article currently lacks information on the history of the Regar community. The article could include a brief history stating that the Regar/Raigar community has historically been concentrated in Rajasthan, particularly in the Mewar and Marwar regions, and was traditionally engaged in leather tanning and related occupations. During the colonial period, many community members shifted to agriculture, trade, and other professions.

I have the following reliable sources to support these changes:

• Shyamlal, *Untouchable Castes in India: The Raigar Movement (1940–2004)*, Rawat Publications. :contentReference[oaicite:0]{index=0}
• Chandanmal Naval, *Regar Caste (History and Culture)*, Rajasthani Granthagar, Jodhpur. :contentReference[oaicite:1]{index=1}
• Debashis Debnath, "Hierarchies Within Hierarchy: Some Observations on Caste System in Rajasthan", *Indian Anthropologist*. :contentReference[oaicite:3]{index=3}
• B. Buswala, "Undignified names: caste, politics, and everyday life in Rajasthan", *Contemporary South Asia* (2023). :contentReference[oaicite:4]{index=4}

Could editors please review these sources and consider updating the article accordingly? Thank you. Jalajdhanwaria (talk) 03:52, 10 July 2026 (UTC)

Not done: your request appears to have been generated by a large language model. Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 04:53, 10 July 2026 (UTC)