Talk:Redneck
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Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2021
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Actually Redneck term comes from Striking miners that tied Red Bandanas around their necks during the march on Blair Mountain. Nothing to do with sunburns. 2001:5B0:43D2:53F8:C86B:4652:B988:84B (talk) 22:15, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:20, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
- https://dailyyonder.com/the-unexpected-radical-roots-of-redneck/2022/09/05/ 2600:1014:B05C:8B72:0:4E:44F1:EF01 (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- https://wvpublic.org/do-you-know-where-the-word-redneck-comes-from-mine-wars-museum-opens-revives-lost-labor-history/?amp=1 2600:1014:B05C:8B72:0:4E:44F1:EF01 (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Here's another source:
- https://www.jstor.org/stable/25474784?searchText=west+virginia+mine+wars&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dwest%2Bvirginia%2Bmine%2Bwars&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A74a376832404278e7d0256053c1e6503&seq=3 Jeff101 jr (talk) 20:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nevermind I didn't read the later comment that added this. Jeff101 jr (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Redneck possibly rooted in "cracker" culture + African-American "ghetto" culture
[edit]I would like to add the following sentence to the article, same as found on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(term).
In his essay titled "Black Rednecks and White Liberals", published in 2005, American economist and social philosopher Thomas Sowell argues, that the "ghetto" African-American culture originates in the dysfunctional white southern redneck culture, which came, in turn, from the "Cracker culture". 93.34.236.85 (talk) 22:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
"West Virginia Mine Wars" should be correctly linked
[edit]to this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_coal_wars Summerloud (talk) 07:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Expanding the scope of the article
[edit]Is redneck merely a derogatory term? Or is there actually such a thing as redneck culture? If there is controversy about this, then we can describe the controversy. Who says that redneck culture is a thing, and on what basis? Who denies it and asserts that people are merely putting others down by branding them with the term?
Also, should we start a second article for Redneck culture and then merge them after a few months of writing and editing have gone by? Or just insert a section in the present article?
I'm planning to start with material I've found in Black Rednecks and White Liberals, by historian and economist Thomas Sowell. I'd like to quote and summarize his findings, and also use his extensive footnotes to get more material. Apparently there were "rednecks" (and even "crackers") in Great Britain a couple centuries ago, and they migrated to North America before other Americans started calling them rednecks.
Anyone want to help? Or at least advise? --Uncle Ed (talk) 14:53, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- If there are no objections, I'm going to add something about "redneck" being seen generally as a put down based on a false stereotype — balanced by academic claims that there really has been a redneck culture (or cracker culture) traceable to the British Isles. --Uncle Ed (talk) 16:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Um, do you have anything besides Sowell's book to back up the idea that this is even a thing? Assuming not, I can't see how this would be a useful addition. CAVincent (talk) 16:51, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, such as
- McWhiney, Grady. Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South University of Alabama Press, 1989
- I'm assuming redneck and cracker have been used somewhat interchangeably and refer to the same patterns of behavior and attitudes. Uncle Ed (talk) 17:35, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, such as
- Um, do you have anything besides Sowell's book to back up the idea that this is even a thing? Assuming not, I can't see how this would be a useful addition. CAVincent (talk) 16:51, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2026
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The word "white" is misleading in the following paragraph (below). While rednecks were traditionally white, what the Redneck Revolt is "signalling" is just their labor roots and combining it with their signals for anti-racism. I looked at the sources referenced and the group expresses a hard anti-racist stance with several Black members appearing in their photographs. The group is using the term redneck to "signal roots" in the rural work-class, but not specifically signalling "white" roots and rather, signalling against race exclusion.
Redneck Revolt have used the term to signal its roots in the rural white working-class and celebration of what member Max Neely described as "redneck culture".[1] ~2026-22178-36 (talk) 04:51, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 14:04, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
- ↑ Watt, Cecilia Saixue (11 July 2017). "Redneck Revolt: the armed leftwing group that wants to stamp out fascism". theguardian.com. Retrieved 29 April 2018.
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