Talk:Radiodonta

Image Clutter

I think that this article has a somewhat cluttered presentation of images, and perhaps more images than are really needed. I think the article needs some expansion of the text and reorganization of the images. Some of the images could probably be removed—do we really need the appendages of Caryosyntrips to be figured twice? Do we really need a depiction showing the reinterpretation of Parapeytoia as a megacheiran? Do we really need a diagram of every hurdiid carapace? These images would be great in an appropriate context (e.g. that last image should be on the page for Hurdiidae), but it seems excessive to have all of them on this page. I'm bringing this up here because I don't want to simply remove content from a page for mere presentation concerns without discussion. Also, perhaps there could be a table on this page presenting key information about all radiodont species with their frontal appendages figured in one of the columns? That might be a neater and more organized way to present the diversity of frontal appendages than the numerous images currently scattered across the page. Ornithopsis (talk) 18:59, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion, I'm the one who add those images to this article. I try to add multiple images in related sections for persuasiveness, but as you mention the presentation is cluttered. Your suggestion would be a better solution. Additionally, I think some fossil images could be removed as well if any diagrams/reconstructions with better resolution on its morphology is presented in the same section. --Junnn11 (talk) 06:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for being understanding of my concerns. I'll probably do some reorganizing of some of the images; I'll try not to remove anything that seems important. As for images of fossils, I think it's important to have the actual fossils depicted as well as reconstructions and diagrams, but some of those could probably be moved to the history of study section. I have used the page Cetiocaridae as a test run for the kind of table of species I'm talking about, in case you're wondering what I have in mind. Ornithopsis (talk) 17:47, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the table. In case that's necessary, I'll provide images of frontal appendages each featuring single species from the assembled diagrams of Anomalocaris, Amplectobelua, Ramskoeldia and Lyrarapax.--Junnn11 (talk) 15:53, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

That would be helpful, thank you! Ornithopsis (talk) 15:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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I just took a look at the image presentation and I think it looks pretty decent. Good to have plenty of images of these long-gone critters from the Cambrian explosion days. Thanks to all the editors who have worked on this page. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

how to pronounce Aegirocassis?

thanks 108.210.109.207 (talk) 15:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Something like “A guy row care ri(as in rip)-s(as in snake)”. Zhenghecaris (talk) 18:47, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Whoops A guy row cass(as in casserole) i(as in is) s(as in snake) Houcaris (talk) 23:21, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

Mosura

Are there any images of the carapace and frontal appendage of mosura, those boxes are empty on the species list or at least have something there like image unavailable or unknown. Zhenghecaris (talk) 01:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

There is an image of the frontal appendage (which I just added), although it is not by Jun like the rest. For some reason, he decided not to make diagrams of the frontal appendage or head sclerite of Mosura. Qohelet12 (talk) 21:06, 16 August 2025 (UTC)

I think the image provided by Moysiuk & Caron 2025 is informative enough. Honestly, the three dimensional structure is quite difficult to represent by my limited skill. The head sclerite is very simple and not distinctive so I didn't make it (these type of small ovoid H-element is generic across some basal hurdiids, anomalocaridids, amplectobeluids and so on). Junnn11 (talk) 04:47, 22 August 2025 (UTC)

Yeah I thought of something similar, thanks for your reply. Qohelet12 (talk) 21:19, 23 August 2025 (UTC)

History

I think the history section mostly ignores most of the more modern things, it doesn’t even mention anything post 2020 and in my opinion there is plenty of stuff to write about Radiodonts that happened recently. Zhenghecaris (talk) 18:44, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Zhenghecaris

On the species list the Zhenghecaris image lacks p elements it should not have an image and say p element unknown, although possible candidates exist. Zhenghecaris (talk) 18:50, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

List

For the list of species we might want a more straightforward organization (e. g. by family or in order of discovery) as its really confusing right now. Houcaris\Zhenghecaris|Talk 22:53, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

I’m talking about the table. Houcaris\Zhenghecaris|Talk 22:54, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

what do you suggest instead? because as i see it, its already organized by family (except houcaris), and there are options under every column to change the sort Prehistorica CM (talk) 23:45, 8 December 2025 (UTC)

Then why is shucaris in the hurdiidae section? Houcaris\Zhenghecaris|Talk 21:17, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

Also as a possible Anomalocaridid parAnomalocaris should be with the Anomalocaridids. Houcaris\Zhenghecaris|Talk 21:15, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

I can’t work with tables but it should probably be in order of the description the genus as usually it’s new genera meaning it is easy to just add to the end. Houcaris\Zhenghecaris|Talk 21:15, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Also the original description section is inconsistent as sometimes it lists all the 4+ authors and other times it uses et al.. Houcaris\Zhenghecaris|Talk 21:32, 31 December 2025 (UTC)