Talk:Quebec

Quebec and Haiti

There's a sentence: "Quebec remains, alongside Haiti, the only major Francophone dominant regions in the Americas." It has three citations.

But it's false, French Guiana is not only Francophone, it's part of France! The three citations here don't actually say anything about Quebec and Haiti being the only major Francophone regions, it just says those two are Francophone regions. ~2026-12444-39 (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Also Saint Pierre and Miquelon. --Magnolia677 (talk) 18:15, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

"Qubeck" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Qubeck has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 11 § Qubeck until a consensus is reached. A1Cafel (talk) 16:39, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2026

Change "Quebec Premier" from "François Legault" to "Christine Fréchette". T-Vincent24 (talk) 15:16, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

 Legualt is still premier for a few more days until Fréchette is formally appointed by the lieutenant governor. Indefatigable (talk) 15:31, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

Quebec Coat of Arms

Quetstar and I have a disagreement about the proper image to use in the infobox for the coat of arms of the province. Quetsar prefers the version with the crown as a crest; I prefer the version without the crest.

The reason for my preference was that in January 2026 the government of Quebec announced that they had removed the crown, as an unwanted British symbol. There are cites to that effect in the article, and none of them suggest the Quebec government's decision had to have the approval of the federal government. (The government of Quebec was presumably relying a provincial statute, the Act respecting the flag and emblems of Québec, s. 4, which gives the government the power to establish the coat of arms and regulate its use, however I've not seen a cite to that effect.)

Quetstar has restored the version with the crown, stating in their edit summary: "While Quebec can establish its emblems, heraldry is a federal matter, so the new CoA is not official until it is entered into the CHA's registry."

I have two problems with that statement. First of all, it is a legal conclusion, and it's not backed up with a reliable citation to that effect. Wikipedia is not a court of law, and we can't make a statement about a legal position unless it's supported by a reliable source. Unless Quetstar provides a reliable source to support their position, we have to go with the statement by the Quebec government that it has changed the coat of arms.

Second, there is nothing in the list of federal powers set out in s. 91 of the Constitution Act, 1867 that states that heraldry is a matter of exclusive federal jurisdiction. Again, there is an absence of a reliable source that says heraldry is a matter of exclusive federal jurisdiction and that federal action is needed to make a coat of arms official. Merely stating that something comes within federal jurisdiction doesn't make it so.

For the above reasons I've changed the coat of arms back to the version announced by the Government of Quebec in January. Unless and until a reliable source is cited, we have to assume that the Quebec government has made the change to its own coat of arms, and doesn't need anyone's permission to make it official.

Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 03:14, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

I agree with having the crownless shield in the article. There is a concept in armoury called “assumed arms,” where a coat of arms is used without being granted by an authority. Some heraldists object strongly to assumed arms in countries where there is a heraldic authority, but Wikipedia’s principles wouldn’t allow the project to take that stance. The crownless version is now the one in use, regardless of whether proper heraldic procedure has been followed, so that version should be in the article. Indefatigable (talk) 12:44, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

I don't actually think that the Imperial Crown ever was part of the blazon. The Public Register of Arms merely states that 'the arms have traditionally been shown ensigned by the Royal Crown.' I think I read somewhere that permission was never granted to use the crown as it would suggest a direct link between the province and the monarch bypassing the federal government. But they obviously did it anyway and it has become practice. I will have to dig out where that came from but it was an interesting read.

The register hosted on the Governor General's website and the 'Symbols of Canada' section of the federal government website are still showing the arms ensigned by the crown.

So regardless of what image is shown, I think some careful phrasing is required. Perhaps something like, 'since 1939, the arms have traditionally been ensigned by the Imperial Crown, but in 2026, the provincial government announced that it would remove the crown.' That leaves some wriggle room. Dgp4004 (talk) 15:12, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

Except it’s not future tense. The government of Quebec has removed the Crown.

https://www.quebec.ca/gouvernement/portrait-quebec/drapeau-symboles-nationaux/armoiries Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:59, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

I have been working on the history section at Coat of arms of Quebec. I have found two authors who maintain that both the 1883 and 1939 arms were assumed arms without a royal warrant. If we are saying that the removal of the crown was unauthorised because it didn't go through the proper channels, then the addition of the crown was also unauthorised. In fact, you could argue that the removal of the crown has more legitimacy than its addition, seeing as its removal takes it closer to the version granted by royal warrant and since it was done after the provincial government asserted a legal right (whether rightly or wrongly) to make the change.

This author, which I cannot cite in the article as it's a random webpage, states that the arms were in fact sent to London for approval in May 1940 and that whilst no objection was made to the changes to the shield, they did object to the inclusion of the crown:

https://heraldicscienceheraldique.com/arms-and-devices-of-provinces-and-territories.html

And as I said above, the Public Register of Arms also chooses its words carefully and seems to hint that the crown is not as official as it seems when it says 'the arms have traditionally been shown ensigned by the Royal Crown'.

So I am minded to say that the version without the crown is correct for our purposes. If the removal of the crown was not 'official', neither was its addition in the first place. Quebec has been doing its own thing for a long time now. Dgp4004 (talk) 22:46, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

For years, the official heraldic authorities in Canada were those of England and Scotland. In 1988, this authority was transfered to the Governor General (i.e the federal government) through letters patent. The coat of arms registred in the CHA registry is the one with the crown. Quetstar (talk) 01:05, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

But as I said above, the crown is not in the blazon on the public register of arms. And their own words state only that the arms have 'traditionally been shown' ensigned by the crown, and not that the crown is part of the arms. It seems that now that 'tradition' is ending. Dgp4004 (talk) 10:25, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2026

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pop_est_ref= to pop_est_ref=

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pop_est_as_of=Q4 2025 to pop_est_as_of=Q2 2026

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population_est=9058089 to population_est=9016222 ~2026-37126-38 (talk) 00:48, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

References

 Done Streetr4 (talk) 01:54, 29 June 2026 (UTC)