Talk:Qatari support for Hamas
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Why Qatar supports Hamas
[edit]Someone elaborate 202.41.10.106 (talk) 05:03, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
November 2023
[edit]I noticed that the creation of the category "2023 Israel-Hamas war" appeared to be a form of propaganda, as it violates Wikipedia policies. Additionally, it is unnecessary since there is already a page available for the "2023 Israel-Hamas war." Such vandalism of the page with this category is a clear violation and should be addressed accordingly. I have fixed it. 109.60.47.7 (talk) 12:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Kindly review the existing relevant page, "2023 Israel-Hamas war", as it already exists. It would be advisable to review and redirect the category/page. 93.140.135.244 (talk) 12:24, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Which policies does it violate exactly? It has nothing to do with the article about the current war, as the Qatari support started long before the war. Alaexis¿question? 12:03, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
History
[edit]Hello! The contribution on this page is copied or moved text from Hamas (Category: Qatar and Turkey). Guidelines of wikipedia at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. Contributor00001 (talk) 10:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
The sources confirm money in 2014 was never sent directly to Hamas
[edit]The cited sources all say that after 2014 Qatari money went to non-Hamas recipients, such as electricity costs and direct humanitarian causes, and suitcases of cash to PA government employees. There was never direct payment to Hamas that was supported by Israel or the US, according to the articles cited. The article should make this clear. The allegation that these payments effectively empowered Hamas indirectly (by supporting the Gaza population ) is an opinion, not a fact. 142.186.145.22 (talk) 14:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 November 2024
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qatar is not a financial supporter of hamas . qatar provides aid to palestinian people 89.211.106.16 (talk) 16:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 21:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Edit request 25 April 2025
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Description of suggested change:
Public Perception and Media Campaign
In 2024, allegations concerning Qatari support for Hamas were referenced in a legal and public relations dispute between former Prime Minister of Qatar Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani and Irish businessman Paddy McKillen. As part of the dispute, McKillen reportedly funded public protests led by U.S.-based Rabbi Pini Dunner, who received a monthly retainer through a Los Angeles PR firm to organise demonstrations and social media content critical of sheikh HBJ. The campaign drew media attention for its strategic use of paid messaging within the context of an ongoing arbitration case in London.[1]
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"Kookie777" (talk) 09:51, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi you! As I understand your edit request, you would like us to add your text to the article. First of all, it seems to be 2025, not 2024. Your source basically says that Dunner, who was paid by McKillen, held a demonstration with banners accusing HBJ of funding Hamas. However, your article doesn't add any information about Qatari support for Hamas, so I don't think that this campaign, even if it drew media attention, is notable enough to deserve a place in our article.
- I may be wrong, and therefore I won't close your edit request for now, so other editors who may disagree with me, can make the edit. Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 15:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think you're right. The protests against the support, if widely covered, would be within the scope. On the other hand, an arbitration case is only tangentially related. Alaexis¿question? 21:50, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Edit request 17 May 2026
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Description of suggested change:
Want to add NPOV tag, page is clearly POV.
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| − | [[Qatar]] has been a key financial | + | <table class="plainlinks ombox ombox-notice" role="presentation"><tr><td class="mbox-image">[[File:Green check.svg|30px|link=|alt=]]</td><td class="mbox-text"><div style="padding-top: 6px; padding-bottom: 5px;">'''This page documents an English Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|policy]].'''<div style="font-size: 90%;">It describes a widely accepted standard that all editors should [[Wikipedia:Ignore all rules|normally]] follow. <em >Substantive</em> edits to this page [[WP:PGCHANGE|should reflect consensus]].</div></div></td><td class="mbox-imageright"><div class="module-shortcutanchordiv"><span id="WP:NPOV"></span><span id="WP:NPV"></span></div><div class="module-shortcutboxplain noprint" role="note"><div class="module-shortcutlist">[[Wikipedia:Shortcut|Shortcuts]]</div><div class="plainlist"><ul><li><span class="nowrap"><span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NPOV&redirect=no WP:NPOV]</span><span style="display: none">[[:WP:NPOV]]</span></span></li><li><span class="nowrap"><span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:NPV&redirect=no WP:NPV]</span><span style="display: none">[[:WP:NPV]]</span></span></li></ul></div></div></td></tr></table>[[Qatar]] has been a key financial |
Asonnlakn (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- What exactly is non-neutral in your opinion? Alaexis¿question? 20:55, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- The POV in question is the long-standing Israeli propaganda narrative of Qatar as a shadowy force behind Hamas and leading a PR/brainwashing operation to legitimize them. The article reads like a low quality high school essay where facts are shoehorned into a preselected narrative. It leads off talking about financial support, framing it as though it's support of a political organization (which is how Hamas is described on their own page, while they're described as a "militant organization" here), and leaving it to a footnote later that it was pledged for rebuilding Gaza or providing humanitarian support. It then goes into the recycled narrative of "Qatar hosts Hamas officials", with the footnote that this was requested by the United States. I can't stress enough how many times I've heard this exact framing from Israeli officials.
- Also, this entire format of article only seem to exist in terms of Iran, Hamas, Houthis, Qatar, etc. - I can't find a single article named "United States support of x", "American support of x", despite $70-100B in annual US foreign aid. Yet we're talking about an isolated instance of $360M here? What is going on here? Asonnlakn (talk) 21:11, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- On closer inspection, the entire article was started off by a suspected sock-puppet account of a banned account... Asonnlakn (talk) 21:18, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Not done: This is not an uncontroversial edit request, and any discussion over this tag by you would be in violation of the extended confirmed restriction. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 21:41, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
- OK, so my recourse here is what exactly? Asonnlakn (talk) 21:44, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Edit request to complete AfD nomination
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Qatari support for Hamas has been listed at Articles for deletion (nomination), but it was protected, so it could not be tagged. Please add:
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to the top of the page to complete the nomination. Thank you. Asonnlakn (talk) 21:28, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
Not done: You need to be extended confirmed to start such a discussion, per WP:ECR. 45dogs (they/them) (talk page) (contributions) 21:36, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
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