Talk:Pycnacantha tribulus
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected, closed by Launchballer talk 16:52, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
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female Pycnacantha tribulus
- ... that the South African "hedgehog spider" Pycnacantha tribulus (female pictured) catches male moths using female moth pheromones and mimics a thorny fruit?
- Source: Dippenaar-Schoeman, A.S.; Jones, A.; Webb, P. (2024). "Pycnacantha tribulus (Fabricius, 1781) the first spider described from South Africa revisited (Araneae: Araneidae)". SANSA Newsletter. 52: 19–22. doi:10.5281/zenodo.14526037
- Reviewed:
Sarefo (talk) 04:42, 14 September 2025 (UTC).
- starting review--Kevmin § 13:50, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
@Sarefo: My first concern is the copy-violations and close paraphrasing in the description section. The major sentence groups are close to word for word from the SANSA Newsletter source text.--Kevmin § 15:58, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- there are absolutely no copyright violations here! SANSA was generous enough to share all their guide under CC-BY. For some reason that page didn't get the template, I added it. I'm actually in contact with Dippenaar-Schoeman, and she's very happy this content is reaching a wider audience. --Sarefo (talk) 16:38, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Sarefo: As the article was presented there was no indication that text had been used with a CC-by rational which is required any time free-use compatible text is present, per Wikipedia:Plagiarism#Copying material from free sources. So it WAS at that point in violation of policy. (WIKI is the same as any journal with in-house style guidelines that are required for publishing in it) Now that the disclaimer is present the plagiarism issue should be satisfied, but I am going to ask on the DYK talk page to be certain.--Kevmin § 17:11, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- thanks! I confused copyright law with specific wiki guidelines here. --Sarefo (talk) 17:16, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Sarefo: As the article was presented there was no indication that text had been used with a CC-by rational which is required any time free-use compatible text is present, per Wikipedia:Plagiarism#Copying material from free sources. So it WAS at that point in violation of policy. (WIKI is the same as any journal with in-house style guidelines that are required for publishing in it) Now that the disclaimer is present the plagiarism issue should be satisfied, but I am going to ask on the DYK talk page to be certain.--Kevmin § 17:11, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- there are absolutely no copyright violations here! SANSA was generous enough to share all their guide under CC-BY. For some reason that page didn't get the template, I added it. I'm actually in contact with Dippenaar-Schoeman, and she's very happy this content is reaching a wider audience. --Sarefo (talk) 16:38, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Following up on the DYK discussion regarding included prose from sources not being counted in total article length, combined with the use of LLM generation, Im going to Reject this nomination. Sarefo if you look at my articles created list I primarily work on just as obscure topics, but have not needed at any point to use LLM or CLOP of free use texts. While those methods are temptingly easy, they are also not allowed in many aspects of Wiki.--Kevmin § 16:18, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
