Talk:Pu Chao Lao Chok

please discuss your stated issues in this talk page

@AirshipJungleman29

please elaborate on what aditional sources do you wish to be added. the style of the page is different from other wikis as i write it in the same style as the original myth. If this does not work please elaborate on how you expect the page to be improved. Ubs6u!d-onstory (talk) 13:51, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

regarding infobox, i have opened a discussion on wikipedia server and infobox character was suggested. if you reccomend other infobox please discuss with other wikipedians here and we can use the conclusion. Ubs6u!d-onstory (talk) 13:53, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi Ubs6u!d-onstory. All Wikipedia articles are expected to be written in the same style, not the style of the article subject. (We do not want the article on the Ramayana to be written in couplets, we do not want the article on Shakespeare's sonnets to be fourteen lines, we do not want the article on the Aeneid to be written in dactylic hexameter.) {{Infobox character}} is for fictional characters, not semi-legendary rulers. In this case, there is no particular need for an infobox, as it would just say the subject's name and title, which is what you get from the first sentence anyway. While we are here, please consider providing translations for the citation titles using the |trans-title parameter. Thanks, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:03, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

I will translate the citation titles. what is the additional source you spoke of?

the infobox povides the list of his sons (and i will insert the name of his wife too) but if theyre not enough information then it is understandable to omit it. Ubs6u!d-onstory (talk) 14:17, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

ive added more citations. I also attempted to translate the book names best i could since they have no english names.

also wikipedia server said the language here is fine, not sure how do you reccommend it be improved? you are free to give an example. Ubs6u!d-onstory (talk) 15:15, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

I don't believe I have spoken of an additional source, just additional citations, which you seem to have remedied. You can also translate the titles of the online sources. For tone, see for example the subsections "Protector of Phra That Doi Tung" and "Death and Oappatika", which excessively replicate the tone of the sources—this is often a problem with excessive use of primary sources (there's a reason the policy warns against basing large parts of articles on them). If possible, the content of these sections should be backed up by secondary sources, which should help neutralise the tone. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:47, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Secondary sources I’ve found in Thai tend to write in the legend style, which in Thai sources is more accepted. in my previous work in the page for Ngammueang, I first cited the legend then provide a secondary source interpretation of it, but for Pu Chao Lao Chok secondary sources are rarer to my knowledge.

I’ve tried my best to fix it, let me know if that works.

The title of online sources are very long, I’ll see if I can translate them.

may I ask, are you also interested in the topic in general or just helping with the page creation? The page for Lao Chong (Lawachangaraj) is a mess and this page was partly created to remove the sections pertaining to Pu Chao Lao Chok from that page. If you are interested I would appreciate a helping hand in cleaning up that mess (and Ngoenyang history in general but thats too big a scale) but if you’re not interested that’s okay. Im not an experienced editor by any means (i started out editing animal maps) so more experienced help would be appreciated Ubs6u!d-onstory (talk) 02:30, 25 June 2026 (UTC)