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Inclusion of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine as an example of proxy war

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This is controversial, to say the least.

e.g. see https://www.kcl.ac.uk/is-the-war-in-ukraine-a-proxy-conflict TFP SA (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Your own source concludes that the invasion is not a proxy war, and merely states that describing the war as a proxy war is expedient from a Russian point of view. Cortador (talk) 09:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
what is a Proxy War ?
Ukraine is armed from USA an EU
and Russia from China and North Korea !
Nobody is Hiding this Facts Flausensausen (talk) 15:28, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
Having supporters/suppliers isn't the same as a proxy war. — Czello (music) 15:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
"A proxy war is characterised by a direct, long-term, geopolitical relationship between the third-party sponsor states and their client states or non-state clients" (this article)
This somewhat applies for that conflict. For both Russia (China) and Ukraine (USA, EU)
Doesn't mean this war is a "plot" against Russia, doesn't have to be hidden, doesn't mean Ukraine isn't right to defend itself. etc.. DOOM (talk) 16:55, 13 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Proxy war on ukraine https://www.stopwar.org.uk/article/sunak-is-playing-with-fire-the-nato-russia-proxy-war-could-soon-turn-hot/

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202302/1285750.shtml https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ukraine-zelensky-dc-visit-biden-war-b2249618.html  Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.111.119.54 (talk) 16:35, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Officials from both USA and Russia agreed it is a proxy war - Reuters
Therefore, it's a fact and not a controversial opinion. Karmelki90 (talk) 19:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I concur with that, judging from the definition from this very page, the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a proxy war (like most major conflicts ends up to be..) Ukraine is American/European proxy and Russia is somewhat China's proxy.
That is a very common talking point within Russian propaganda, but listing Ukrainian war as a proxy war nevertheless does not mean that Ukraine isn't rightly and legally (international law) defending against Russia. Just that it is being supported, which is obvious. DOOM (talk) 16:50, 13 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
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