Talk:Policy Governance

Earlier Concerns

I'd really like to see the 'advert' tag removed as well. However, I do think the quality of the article in terms of WP:PEA could still be improved. There are still many unattributed statements. Perhaps, a section dedicated to the "Claims of the model" would help guide the neutrality of the other sections (though those claims will still need to attributed):

• introductory text, the "lead" (link to John Carver article, Governance article)
• Elements of the model (cite Ten Principles)
• Claims for the model (paradigm, comprehensive system, theory)
• Adoption of the model (list significant organizations adopting PG)
• Criticism of the model
• See also
• References
• Further reading
• External links

SteeleJ (talk) 22:30, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the 'advert' tag was added 3 years ago - I don't think this reads like an advert now - I vote we remove the tag Jrdsmith (talk) 08:40, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Co-author description

Why is Miriam Carver described as "helping" John Carver, when she is clearly a co-author?

Why is the book Reinventing Your Board described as written by John "with" Miriam, when they are clearly co-authors?

Why is the website described as "John's" website, when they are both clearly website owners and authors?

Cathy Bray, Vancouver

There are other errors in this page including how the board distinguishes its role from that of staff--it is by explicit policy statements, not the distinction between ends and means. The concerns itself with both ends and means, but uses different approach to each.

How does someone edit the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gjpeterson (talk • contribs) 16:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing the article is a Means issue. - John Paines

Further Reading section?

Removed this paragraph from end of "Claims for the model" section where it doesn't seem to belong: Carver has written and contributed to a number of books. Boards That Make a Difference is probably the best known but Reinventing Your Board, co-authored with Miriam Carver in a new edition in 2006, is the easiest for a beginner to understand. It also contains typical board policies that can be modified to fit most organizations. Other resources that may be helpful include the "Policy Governance Fieldbook", edited by Caroline Oliver, "Getting Started with Policy Governance" by Caroline Oliver, "Corporate Boards that Create Value" by John Carver and Caroline Oliver.

It seems that if it is to be included, it should be in a new Further Reading WP:Layout#Further reading. section and include citations. - SteeleJ (talk) 19:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Improving the Policy Governance article

Hello editors,

A small group of us (including me, User:Policy_Governance_Expert_and_Guru) are collaborating to improve the accuracy, sourcing, and clarity of this article. Our intent is to ensure that the page reflects verifiable information drawn from reliable secondary sources and accurately represents the Policy Governance® model as described in published literature.

We are subject-matter experts with long experience in nonprofit and association governance and are mindful of Wikipedia’s requirements for neutrality and verifiability. Our work will focus on:

• Clarifying the distinction between Policy Governance as a specific model and general board governance practices
• Improving citations to include independent, scholarly, and reputable sources (beyond the Carvers’ own publications)
• Ensuring that descriptions of concepts such as Ends, Executive Limitations, and Governance Process are accurate but neutrally stated
• Reducing or flagging unsourced or interpretive content

We plan to draft proposed revisions in our user sandboxes before suggesting or making live edits, and we welcome feedback and collaboration from other editors interested in this topic.

Thank you for your time and for maintaining the integrity of this important article. Policy Governance Expert and Guru (talk) 18:59, 27 October 2025 (UTC)