Talk:Pokimane

Proposed removal of YouPorn statistic

Recently, several IP editors (178.39.205.121, 91.209.169.199, and 178.39.205.121) have proposed that the following sentence be removed from the article:

Porn website YouPorn reported that while their overall traffic decreased by 13.57% during the pro–am tournament, searches for "Desiigner" and "Pokimane" increased by 721% and 70%, respectively.

References

I've declined the proposed removal under pending changes review because the sentence is properly sourced (since Game Revolution is considered a reliable source on WP:VG/S). Please discuss the change here. If there is a consensus to remove or change the text, please submit the edit again. Thanks. — Newslinger talk 05:12, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion

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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 06:37, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Website

Can the Pokishop https://pokishop.com be regarded as a valid website? or is it too vague to be on the Wikipedia. Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 06:02, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2020 for Pokimane

I am Pokimane's manager and would like to have this removed completely as it does not apply to Pokimane's career. You can reach me at [email redacted by JTP ^{(talk • contribs)}] if necessary.

"Porn website YouPorn reported that while their overall traffic decreased by 13.57% during the pro–am tournament, searches for "Desiigner" and "Pokimane" increased by 721% and 70% respectively.[7] " Kirstenmcne (talk) 18:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done, but in the future, please read WP:COI and follow those instructions for making edit requests. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 19:42, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Recent Controversy

Are we not gonna mention Pokimane helped remove ItsAGundam future sponsorship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueshocker (talk • contribs) 04:54, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Unless the controversies being mentioned has adverse effects on her career, they are not mentioned, as well as it on many cases would violate WP:BLP. Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 07:43, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Add controversy subsection

At that case, can I add that subsection in this article with cited sources, both from here and here, which she addressed from her overdue apology video on YouTube involving her recent controversy (apparently that she was involved with a boyfriend)? She also said that she's going to take a break for that controversial reason. --Allen ^{(talk / ctrb)} 05:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Adding those articles for a controversy section really does no justice to controversy sections in articles as regarding the boyfriend thing, all she did was mention that she wants to keep her personal life and relationships private, which is something she has expressed on many occasions of her career. The break also involves little to no controversy as she mentioned taking a break a while back due to feeling burnout as a result of streaming nonstop for seven years right out of university. This information really doesn't amount to anything significant in her career as many other streamers keep their lives private and also take breaks from time to time, I guess this information just proves WP:FART. Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 08:16, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

None of those insignificant stuff are encyclopedic content, WP:NOTEVERYTHING and are violation of WP:BLP and I agree with Delta fiver's comments. Panda619 (talk) 11:22, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Panda619Delta fiver I see nothing in WP:NOTEVERYTHING that is a valid reason to not include it as long as it's properly sourced. Also how would it be a violation of WP:BLP if it's properly sourced? Neither of these pages say anything about not including controversies as long as they are properly sourced. Allen2 provided citations so I don't see the issue here. I for one believe that not including all the controversies surrounding someone as controversial as her as long as they're properly sourced is a violation of WP:NPOV. Mattwo7 (talk) 03:17, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

I think she born near Algeria

oujda i guess.... - Samiwikia

She had already conveyed on many occasions, that she was born in Morocco, I think that's good enough. Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 17:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok - Samiwikia

YT stats

I think the article would be more fleshed out if the YT stats were put back up again or put up LegioV (talk) 23:21, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Moroccan-Canadian nationality

@Delta fiver: the New York Times has described her as Canadian-Moroccan ; there's also this Wired interview which likely touches on her roots, but to which I don't have access. Other articles in reliable sources do not seem to describe her nationality. She has a Draw my Life video where she states that she was born in Morocco, and her DNA test came back with a 85% match to North African and Arabian DNAs (also accessible on YouTube). I think that the two last sources, while self-published, are in line with WP:ABOUTSELF. Given that there's no reasonable doubt as to the authenticity of the claim, and considering the WP:V legitimate concern satisfied, I am reinstating the mention that she's Moroccan-Canadian with the NYT ref. Pilaz (talk) 09:57, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

• @Pilaz: I see it more like they are specifying that she is a Canadian of Moroccan descent. However, I do believe both countries allow for dual citizenship so it's probably safer to include both in the lead (or rewrite as Canadian of Moroccan descent). — BriefEdits (talk) 16:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
  • I understand where this concern is coming from (having met many [insert claimed nationality] who were only descendants and did not actually have nationality from the country they claimed to be from), but we simply can't delete the mention "Moroccan" when she is described by RS as "Canadian-Moroccan". There has to be a reasonable doubt that's covered by a reliable source, and I don't believe there currently is one. Pilaz (talk) 21:07, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
    • Oh yeah, I'm in favor of keeping it "Moroccan-Canadian". Just voicing my opinion on the matter for posterity. In hindsight, "Canadian of Moroccan descent" would just make it more confusing. — BriefEdits (talk) 21:28, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Minimize external links

Per the Wikipedia guideline WP:ELMIN, external links must be minimized to one official link whenever possible. Strugglehouse, you have reverted my removal of Pokimane's secondary channels without providing an explanation: is there one?

Removing the secondary channels is necessary because Wikipedia is not a directory Wikipedia is not a repository. Her other channels are already linked in her primary YouTube channel anyway. Pilaz (talk) 22:12, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

@Pilaz Many other pages of YouTubers with multiple channels will list them all (See Smosh, Rhett & Link, Wilbur Soot, TommyInnit, Jarvis Johnson (YouTuber), Technoblade, PewDiePie, MrBeast, and many more). Template:Infobox YouTube personality shows channel_name, channel_name2, channel_name3, channel_url, channel_url2, channel_url3, channel_direct_url, channel_direct_url2, channel_direct_url3, channel_display_name, channel_display_name2, channel_display_name3, and channels, as well as examples of more than one channel being listed. It also shows channel_website used to display a channels personal website (you removed Anys' merchandise store; I'm not sure if that's covered by "personal website", but channel links should be fine). Strugglehouse (talk) 22:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

I am going through all of the channels since some people have been compulsively adding every single channel remotely connected to internet personalities, and I appreciate you linking those extra channels.

The blame lies neither on you nor on other editors, but primarily on Template:Infobox YouTube personality which has allowed this proliferation to go unchecked. I assume nobody ever heard of WP:ELMIN, so I've alerted the corresponding WikiProject before I remove the multiple channels. If you'd like to help in this endeavor, feel free to delete extra YouTube channels beyond the main one you encounter, leaving WP:ELMIN in your edit summary. Thank you! Pilaz (talk) 22:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Strugglehouse, update: I've cleared all the secondary channel links from the very top YouTubers and Twitch streamers, and left a message on Talk:Rhett & Link to decide what to keep. Please let me know if you find more. Cheers, Pilaz (talk) 03:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Strugglehouse, central discussion started by Pilaz at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject YouTube#Template:Infobox YouTube personality is at odds with the WP:ELMIN guideline --Cerebral726 (talk) 13:09, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

@Cerebral726 Thank you! I've added my thoughts there. Strugglehouse (talk) 13:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Personal Life -> Early Life

The personal life section simply states what I feel would be a better fit for an early life section in front of the career section. It literally is written as if it is an early life section, so I’m not sure why it is called “personal life.” SpaiceyWarrior (talk) 17:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Well well well

Criticism Muhammad Ortega (talk) 14:16, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

@Muhammad Ortega: Please stop adding unsourced content to articles, particularly criticisms which are violations of WP:BLP. I suggest reading up on some basic policies like WP:BLP and WP:SOURCE. Starting a discussion on the talk page with "Well well well" every time you're reverted for violating policy doesn't assist other editors in engaging with you. Yue🌙 18:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Name in Arabic

Why is this relevant? Does she use this often? Or at all?

Canadian-Moroccan

@Strugglehouse: The claim that she is "Canadian-Moroccan" or "Canadian and Moroccan" is well established and sourced.

Your claim that "Being Moroccan is not relevant to her career" is not only false but ridiculous, because her being Canadian is also not relevant to her career, she lives in the US and works in the US. She always talks about her Moroccan origins and about Morocco. When some Social media users targeted her race she replied with "...I also feel like I try very hard to put on Morocco cause I am very proud of being from Morocco." and most of reliable sources talk of her as being a Canadian-Moroccan streamer.

Also your claim that "she grew up in and lives in Canada" is only a half truth, she was born in Morocco and lived in it for 4 years and still visits her father's/mother's side of the family every year since then, yes she grew up in Canada but she's living in the USA for over seven years now.

"and she is notable only for work done in Canada.", this claim is also wrong she is notable for the work done in the united stated of America. 102.97.33.35 (talk) 12:58, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

@102.97.33.35 It's MOS:ETHNICITY. When I say that "Being Moroccan is not relevant to her career", I am using the wording of MOS:ETHNICITY. Her career doesn't span any work done in Morocco. She's not notable at all for any work done in Morocco, so it doesn't go in the lead per MOS:ETHNICITY.

If it's true that she has been working in the US for a number of years, the lead should really say "Canadian and American".

Additionally, "Canadian-Moroccan" isn't how it should be written anyway, again per MOS:ETHNICITY. Strugglehouse (talk) 13:23, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Known online as Pokimane

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Hey! I am writing to seek community input and reach a consensus on the phrasing of the lead sentence for this article. There is currently a content dispute. One editor (@ConeKota) prefers the phrasing "also known by her pseudonym Pokimane." Other editors (like @Alenoach and myself), believe the standard and clearer phrasing "known online as Pokimane". Please share your input with us. Cheers! Rap no Davinci (talk) 11:34, 26 December 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

"Moroccan and Canadian"

Hello. I'm aware that this has been discussed in the past, but it rarely resulted in a proper decision.

"Moroccan" should be removed from the first sentence. The opening paragraph is not for ethnicity. It is for information on where the subject has done the work they are notable for.

Please see MOS:CONTEXTBIO, which reads (emphasis added):

The opening paragraph should usually provide context for that which made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was such when they became notable.

...

Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, neither previous nationalities nor the country of birth should be mentioned in the opening paragraph unless relevant to the subject's notability.

Therefore, per CONTEXTBIO, the opening paragraph should provide context for where Pokimane gained notability. She lived in Canada from a very young age, and now lives in the United States. Morocco is her birth location, but is not relevant at all to her notability.

Therefore, the first sentence should read something along the lines of:

Imane Anys (born 14 May 1996), better known as Pokimane, is a Canadian and American online streamer, YouTuber and influencer.

I'm happy with not including "American" in that way if others believe it would be confusing. I'm happy with something like:

Imane Anys (born 14 May 1996), better known as Pokimane, is a Canadian online streamer, YouTuber and influencer based in California.

All in all, following MOS, "Moroccan" should be removed from the opening paragraph.

Thanks. Strugglehouse (talk) 14:38, 12 April 2026 (UTC)

Don't use LLM to discuss on Talk Pages: WP:AITALK. Please use your own thoughts and words! Rap no Davinci (talk) 10:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

@Rap no Davinci I did not use an LLM to write this. It was fully written by me. Strugglehouse (talk) 11:01, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

It's been three and a half months and all that's been said is a false accusation of using an LLM.

Has anyone got anything actual to say in response to this? Strugglehouse (talk) 13:46, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

Additional Source Re her Exit from RTS

For anyone familiar with Pokimane's career, she made a discussion video (or podcast?) where she addressed in more detail her departure from her management company. I recall seeing it before, from my memory she was addressing rumours that she had sold the company to Saudi investors and clarified this wasn't what happened (or at least gave her version of events). I haven't been able to find the source video of this however, if anyone could track it down it would be a good addition to the page. As of now, the only source I have on her departure from the company at all is her mention of it in a Tiktok video. Jamesbroispx (talk) 09:20, 27 April 2026 (UTC)