Talk:Pinus lambertiana

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The high elevation pine survey is in peer review right now, but the results are very disturbing. Basically white pine blister rust is rapidly killing the white pines in California. Many areas in the north have infection rates over 90%. White pines are being replaced by other species. I guess this isn't too surprising though as it has happened in Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Montana. I will will post the final paper results once they are complete. SierraSkier 03:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Sugar cone pine

This tree is sometimes known as "sugarcone pine" and redirects should be made for Sugarcone pine, Sugar cone pine, and Sugar-cone pine. It took me quite a while to find this page as I didn't consider the name "sugar pine". --69.226.103.55 (talk) 01:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit to improve sort order in category Pinus

I edited this to change the sort order on the page for the Category:Pinus. It had been set to alphabetize under Pine. That might make sense for categories where there are a lot of trees and a few of them are pines; then all the pines group together. But on the page where everything is a pine, it made more sense to alphabetize under Sugar. 140.147.236.194 (talk) 20:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

Maximum cone length

I removed the claim of 66 cm / 26 in for the maximum cone length cited from Brockman 1968, Trees of North America, and replaced it with a more reliable 56 cm / 22 in from OSU and FEIS. The "26 inch" claim is oft-repeated, and dates back to Lemmon 1895, Handbook of West-American Cone-bearers (p. 21), but I've never seen any hard measured evidence to support claims of cones this long. Earlier, Lemmon had given "10 to 12, rarely 15–22 inches" in his 1888 Second Biennial Report of the California State Board of Forestry (p. 70). Whether Lemmon's change to "26 inches" is genuine, or an error, is yet to be elucidated. I've also toned down the 'longest cone of any conifer', as populations of Pinus strobiformis in Jalisco are known to produce cones to 53 cm long (measured) to possibly 60 cm (cited by Farjon, Flora Neotropica 75: 211, 215), so comes very close to the same maximum if not exceeding it. - MPF (talk) 14:39, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Expansion of human uses and cultural significance

I made a relatively big update to the human use section on this page because the existing coverage was fairly limited. Indigenous use was split between "Uses" and "Folklore," with most of the discussion focused on food and the Washo. I combined this under "Indigenous uses and traditions" and added sourced material on Washo medicinal use, Sierra Miwok first-fruit practices, the Hupa Brush Dance, and Achomawi and Wintu cultural narratives.

I also expanded the timber section. Sugar pine was a major commercial timber tree in California, but the article had little on why the wood was valued, the scale of the industry, or how that industry changed over time. The revised section adds USDA and Forest Service sources on lumber qualities and uses, production figures, industrial logging and flumes, the Madera Sugar Pine Company, postwar changes in the lumber industry, and recent harvest levels. I also added a couple of specific examples—the White House renovation and the Wanamaker Organ—where they help illustrate specialty uses of clear sugar pine.

I tried to keep both sections reasonably concise while giving the subject better coverage and sourcing. Guywelch2000 (talk) 03:46, 5 September 2026 (UTC)