Talk:Pineapple Express

Etymology

The first time I heard the term "Pineapple Express" was from Seattle TV station KOMO's weatherman Ray Ramsey in the later Sixties. Ray Ramsey was a fun and unique personality and coined many terms such as "snow snifters" and "drizmal". It would be in his character to make the term up. There's a Seattle Times article that describes his style: RainCoaster (talk) 08:53, 11 December 2014 (UTC)RainCoaster

I rarely hear the term used anymore, and I was surprised to find this page even exists. The term "atmospheric river" is the term of art now. Not sure when the change took place, but I haven't heard people use "Pineapple Express" in about a decade. Makes me think this page should redirect to atmospheric river. Viriditas (talk) 21:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Northern California 2014

If the recent Calfornia storm isn't a Pineapple Express, should it even be mentioned here? (Although on NPR it was just attributed to the P.E.) Looks like there needs to be an appropriate entry under Category:2015 meteorology (see Category:2014 meteorology for appropriate article names) and the bulk of the info about the recent storm moved to there. Valfontis (talk) 21:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I didn't want to remove this section outright - which is why I just added the actual storm distinction, in case others felt strongly about having the section here. I figure many people are probably viewing this page after the recent storm, and might just add it back if it weren't mentioned. But I'm all for moving the section to a meteorology page. Velocitay (talk) 23:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

In source that user Velocitay provided a Meteorologist expert says that it is not that of a pineapple express. But he doesn't actually confirm that it is not a pineapple express. For now I think we have to wait until other sources actually confirm that this isn't a pineapple express.--Chamith (talk) 05:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Question - how am I to confirm that the storm was *not* by a pineapple express other than by referring to expert opinions stated on verifiable online sources? I don't know what the burden of proof is - do I need to call up the expert meteorologist? (If there is a standard Wikipedia article on this subject and I've missed it, please let me know - sorry to cause a disruption!)

As a side note, I talked to a friend who heard on the radio this morning on the East Coast that another professional meterologist with the American Meteorological society claims that this particular storm is *not* a pineapple express by definition. Rather, it's a great buzzword and the press has latched onto it because it sells newspapers and makes for good weather TV. Clearly, that's not something that I can cite on Wikipedia, but I'm just looking for clarity on how Wikipedia deals with issues like this. Velocitay (talk) 05:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm not arguing that this is a pineapple express. Maybe it's not a pineapple express. I'm just saying that lots of sources has already named this as a pineapple express, suddenly when someone says that it's not a pineapple express readers might get confused. So what I'm asking is to wait until multiple sources actually confirm that this is not a pineapple express. If American Meteorological society claims that this isn't a pineapple express then please re-add content I removed along with that source.--Chamith (talk) 06:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

New question. Are the events in Los Angeles related to the same weather system? P.S. Velocitay, here is the relevant guideline you were asking about. Valfontis (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Pineapple Express vs. El Niño?

Could some weather/climate wizard go into the details of how these phenomena are or are not related? MrRedwood (talk) 03:13, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

February 2019

I didn't add it to the article because I don't know if it qualifies as an "extreme case" --213.138.251.225 (talk) 09:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)