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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Oppose. Nicknames in Cape Verdean culture are used instead of real names, and not with real names. He is known either as “Pico”, either as “Roberto Lopes”. Ten Islands (talk) 00:32, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Per WP:COMMONNAME, the title should be based off how he is referred to in English-language sources, he is frequently named as "Pico Lopes" and the Cape Verdean Football Federation even registered him with FIFA under this name , . Non-English sources from Cape Verde do not decide the English-language common name. S.A. Julio (talk) 03:44, 4 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I believe you are mistaken, that is not what WP:COMMONNAME prescribes. The title should not be based on English-language sources, on French-language sources, on Chinese-language sources, or on whatever-language sources. That sound U.S. exceptionalism or U.S. ethnocentrism, which is something that should be avoided. The title should be named on how he is actually known, either “Roberto Carlos Lopes”, his real name, or either “Pico”, his nickname. “Pico Lopes” seems an invention from English-language media who do not know how naming conventions work in Cabo Verde.
I seriously doubt that the Cape Verdean Football Federation registered him under the name “Pico Lopes”. The federations send a list to FIFA with how the names were registered in that same Federation, there can not be discrepancies. Accordingly to the law in Cabo Verde, people are registered in organizations with their true name and, elsewhere, you may note that that person has a nickname. As you can see, in the site of the FCF he is listed as “Roberto Lopes ‘Pico’ ”. Probably, someone else in FIFA made a mistake and decided to write “Pico Lopes”. The back of his jersey has “Pico”, simply.
Finally, let’s have some consistency. Cape Verdean footballers have entries in Wikipedia with their nicknames, and not with their nicknames + surname. Check the cases of Vozinha (nobody calls him “Vozinha Dias”), Stopira (nobody calls him “Stopira Tavares”), or Diney (nobody calls him “Diney Borges”). As for me, the page may be named either “Roberto Lopes (footballer, born 1992)”, either “Pico”. “Pico Lopes” is an invention.
@TenIslands: First off, it has nothing to do with exceptionalism/ethnocentrism. Rather, this is the English-language Wikipedia, thus we reflect what is used in English-langauge sources. Per WP:COMMONNAME: Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's official name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable, English-language sources). WP:CRITERIA states it more clearly: Article titles are based on how reliable English-language sources refer to the article's subject. Additionally, even if you do think "Pico Lopes" is not the most commonly-used name in English sources, WP:NATURAL also applies; having his article title under "Roberto Lopes" and "Pico" both require disambiguation, while "Pico Lopes" would not need this. Finally, please look at him reading his own name at the World Cup media day for Cape Verde, where he chose the name "Pico Lopes", thus it is not just some invention by the media. S.A. Julio (talk) 06:25, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I couldn’t watch the link you shared of him reading his own name, the post is not available anymore. But a can share another post of him telling his own name that contradicts the post you mentioned. I am more inclined to respect how a person calls himself, and not follow other sources. The problem with sources (in English or in whichever language) is how “reliable” they can be. As I said before, it is more likely to English-language speakers to incorrectly follow English-language name conventions instead of following how a person’s name is actyally said. I believe we should respect how the player prefers to mention himself (if the player uses either “Pico” or “Pico Lopes”, then us, editors, we have a problem in out hands…).
Again, I wouldn’t mind the article be titled “Roberto Lopes (footballer, born 1992)” or “Pico (footballer, born 1992)”. “Pico Lopes” just sound incorrect. It wouldn’t harm, in the article itself, to say “Roberto Carlos Lopes, also known as Pico or Pico Lopes”. Ten Islands (talk) 10:46, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Why would English-language sources be anything to do with U.S. exceptionalism or U.S. ethnocentrism? Also remember, he's actually Irish! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:40, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oppose His name is "Roberto Lopes", his nickname is "Pico", thus one of those two should be his page title. "Pico Lopes" isn't his most commonly used name, as he is much more well known under the other two names. Also the name not requiring disambiguation should not be a reason for giving an article a certain name. -- LzerLive (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
Per WP:NATURAL: Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title, is sometimes preferred.S.A. Julio (talk) 13:29, 12 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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