Talk:Piano Man
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| On 4 September 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Piano Man (song) to Piano Man. The result of the discussion was moved. |
1985 video
[edit]Please can further info on this video be added to the article.John a s (talk) 22:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Length
[edit]The infobox says that there are three different versions of this song:
- 5:40 (album version)
- 4:30 (single version)
- 3:05 (SP radio edit version)
But it doesn't include any information about the differences between these versions, or explain if the lyrics are abridged in the shorter versions. Can we add a few words about that? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 20:17, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe we can find some secondary sources for how these versions are different? That way, we'll eliminate all original research on our part. sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:40, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 4 September 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Plenty of editors participating and nobody has actually voiced any opposition to the move. (closed by non-admin page mover) –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 02:45, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
– The song is the primary topic for "Piano Man". It has more than half the pageviews of every article titled something like "Piano Man", and over a third more pageviews than the album, which is the second-most viewed. It also has over 60% of clickthroughs out of the disambiguation page, almost double the clickthroughs of the album. The song is "is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought" for the term "Piano Man".
It's also probably the primary topic by long-term significance. The song is in the Grammy Hall of Fame, and has been inducted in the National Recording Registry for "cultural, historic, or artistic significance". It's often regarded as one of the greatest songs of all time, and has given its singer Billy Joel his long-time nickname because it's his signature song. The album isn't as important overall and with relatively little else of importance, the song is pretty easily the primary topic by long-term significance. Giving a song the primary topic over the same-titled album is admittedly unusual, but it can happen if the song is especially influential; see Hotel California for example. Ladtrack (talk) 00:35, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- Support By longterm significance, it should be the primary topic, even if it's not by pageviews. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:38, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- Question: Should Piano man (with lowercase "man") redirect to pianist? — BarrelProof (talk) 18:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- Piano man is not nominated here. Please open a discussion at WP:RFD. 162 etc. (talk) 19:26, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- At the moment, both the uppercase and lowercase terms are leading to the same name, i.e., Piano Man, which is currently a disambiguation page. This discussion is proposing to change what that name leads to, so it is natural to wonder whether the lowercase version should be retargeted to the new location of the disambiguation page if there is one. I don't think it would be helpful to start a separate discussion somewhere else when the two issues are intertwined, as they both involve the primary topic question for the same string of words, so I think we should discuss that here. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:48, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- I would say no, because piano woman doesn't exist and because I don't think people typing for lowercase "piano man" are likely to be looking for an actual pianist compared to the song, but if consensus goes the other way I'd be fine with that. Ladtrack (talk) 22:01, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- No. I think pianist a an obscure and antiquated synonym and our readers would be surprised. A dab page is less surprising. pburka (talk) 21:49, 5 September 2026 (UTC)
- At the moment, both the uppercase and lowercase terms are leading to the same name, i.e., Piano Man, which is currently a disambiguation page. This discussion is proposing to change what that name leads to, so it is natural to wonder whether the lowercase version should be retargeted to the new location of the disambiguation page if there is one. I don't think it would be helpful to start a separate discussion somewhere else when the two issues are intertwined, as they both involve the primary topic question for the same string of words, so I think we should discuss that here. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:48, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- Piano man is not nominated here. Please open a discussion at WP:RFD. 162 etc. (talk) 19:26, 4 September 2026 (UTC)