Talk:Phryma

Taxonomy

It's premature to say that Phryma leptostachya occurs only in North America. First, most references still treat Phryma as consisting of a single species (P. leptostachya), often with two subspecies (P. leptostachya subsp. leptostachya in North America, P. leptostachya subsp. asiatica in Asia). The new treatment is a very recent minority view that has not been fully evaluated. More importantly, the fact that Japanese populations have been segregated as the (resurrected) species P. nana and P. oblongifolia does not mean that P. leptostachya does not occur in Asia. These authors examined Japanese populations almost exclusively; they examined a single specimen from China, and none from India, Korea, or Russia. It's unclear whether the names of the Japanese taxa can be applied to any of the continental (i.e., non-Japanese) Asian populations of Phryma. Most critically, they did not address the name P. esquirolii, based on Chinese material, which has long been synonymized under P. leptostachya (or subsp. asiatica) but is older than, and thus has nomenclatural priority over, both P. nana and P. oblongifolia. 71.114.90.151 (talk) 23:30, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

These seem very sound points, but the change to the article is not sourced, so appears to be WP:OR. Peter coxhead (talk) 05:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Photo

The photo in the taxobox is not Phryma leptostachya. Not sure what it is, but it's not even family Phrymaceae. 98.192.193.83 (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree; it appears to be a member of the family Fabaceae. Replaced. Peter coxhead (talk) 05:47, 6 August 2022 (UTC)