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Latest comment: 2 months ago by RandomEditsForWhenIRemember in topic Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RandomEditsForWhenIRemember (talk) 18:56, 9 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that a 19th-century Chinese poem considered "a vital example of early modern queer literary tradition" was written by a woman schoolteacher?
  • Source: *Guo, Li (2021). "Hybrid Subjects, Fluid Bonds: Hybrid Subjects, Fluid Bonds: Envisioning the Early Modern Queer in Phoenixes Flying Together". Prism. 18 (1): 27–48. doi:10.1215/25783491-8922185.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 791 past nominations.

  Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:03, 23 April 2026 (UTC).Reply

  • Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 09:18, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
      • Verified for ALT0 only.

        For ALT0: This article notes: "To conclude, Phoenixes Flying Together offers a vital example of early modern queer literary tradition by illustrating fluid male-male bonds and hybrid ideals of homosexuality, which shift Confucian cardinal relations, redefine the power of nanse, and demonstrate queer identifications beyond heteronormative relations." This article notes: "According to Shen Shanbao 沈善寶 (1808–1862), the earliest biographer, Cheng Huiying supported herself by teaching in a private school for girls."

        For ALT1: This article notes: "Feng shuangfei was written by Cheng Huiying 程蕙英, almost unknown in history. The only information about her is that she was a private school teacher for girls (nüshushi 女塾師) who lived in Changzhou 常州 at the end of the Qing dynasty (ca. 19th century) (Hu 1985, p. 647). ... It is the only known complete novel about male homosexuality written by a woman in ancient China, with 52 chapters and 1.8 million words (Bao 2001; Sui 2017)." For the statement about "1.8 million words", the Wikipedia article cites page 227 of this book, where I couldn't find the statement. Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs), if you pointed out where page 227 supports this statement or if the article was updated to use the Zhang source for this, then ALT1 would be verified too.

        This was a very interesting set of hooks and article. Thank you! Cunard (talk) 09:18, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

  • Hi Cunard, my apologies; I must have dropped the correct source when rearranging the paragraph. This should have been cited to Zhang (2024), which reads: "Feng shuangfei 鳳雙飛 (Two Phoenixes Flying Together), a homosexual novel from the Qing dynasty, ... is the only known complete novel about male homosexuality written by a woman in ancient China, with 52 chapters and 1.8 million words (Bao 2001; Sui 2017)."  Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:11, 26 April 2026 (UTC)Reply