Talk:Perfect and imperfect rhymes
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Curious as to the correct name for when the vowels match but minor differences in consonants are present, e.g. "stop" and "dropped"
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Article expansion
[edit]I recently suggested deletion for this article through the AfD process but was convinced of the possibility of expansion past its current state. Right now the article is just defining what a perfect rhyme is, which is the function of a dictionary, not an encyclopedia. Based on comments in the AfD, some suggestions for expanding the article include:
- Finding literary critics discussing why modern poets and popular song writers don't use perfect rhymes.
- Showing why perfect rhyme is used by writers.
- Usages in song writing, which helps prevent the lyrical equivalent of a "sour note".
If anyone else interested in expanding this article has other ideas and hasn't implemented them already, please feel free to add here for other editors. -- Atamachat 18:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
try and country
[edit]Where I come from "try" and "country" don't rhyme, not because they have different stresses as implied by the current article, but because the first has a long-I sound and the second has a long-E sound. Betty Marshall (talk) 05:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- I was about to say the same thing...
Redundant 'Exceptions' Section
[edit]The 'exceptions' setting needs to be rewritten. Currently it is merely an example of 'slant rhyme', which is not described in any detail nor linked to a description elsewhere, and then has two 'examples' of exceptions with absolutely no explanatory notes as to why they are exceptions (other than not being perfect rhymes) at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hu5k3rDu (talk • contribs) 17:21, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, and the example of an "unconventional exception" from Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock" isn't even a slant rhyme: in his dialect "Alabama" and "hammer" (pronounced "hamma") form a perfect rhyme. 169.237.65.181 (talk) 18:58, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Typo in article?
[edit]"The onset of the stressed syllable in the words must differ. For example, "bean" and "green" is a perfect rhyme, while "leave" and "believe" is not." Is this a typo for "...must not differ"? Only, I don't see how "bean" and "green" fulfil the stated criterion of having different onsets of their stressed syllables. 21:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.157.195 (talk)
- /b/ and /ɡr/ are different onsets, while the onsets of the stressed syllables of leave and believe are both /l/. Nardog (talk) 06:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Adding new rhyme (yes, this is serious)
[edit]What kind of a rhyme would "booty hole" and "fruity bowl" be? I would assume perfect, but the weird affect is that the first sounds are switched. Is this discussed in the article? UnexpectedSmoreInquisition aka USI (talk) 18:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Rewrite "In popular music"
[edit]The popular music section frames it like we've sifted through the body of popular music and managed to identify only a couple of rare instances of slant rhymes, where in reality virtually every single popular song is full of slant rhymes, it's the default. The section should be framed more like, "this is an extremely common practice in popular music, and here are a couple of examples so you know what I mean". TradeJmark (talk) 13:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Already and Spaghetti?
[edit]I'm confused how 'already' and 'spaghetti' are considered perfect rhymes. The article claims that they are perfect rhymes in American accents, but the initial vowels are not identical in any accent I've heard before. 'Spaghetti' begins with an "uh" sound while 'already' begins with an 'aw/all' sound.
I checked the citations given for the claim and could not find the example in either source. Taiwannabe (talk) 02:27, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Rhymes only concern the primarily stressed vowel and beyond. Nardog (talk) 08:57, 30 November 2025 (UTC)