Talk:Perciformes

Definition

I'd like to add a definition for the Espada fish (an ugly brute of which I'm rather fond). I know it is one of the Perciformes and apparently belongs to the family Trichiuridae, being one of the class of Actinopterygii (ray-finned fishes) However, I can't fathom out where to put a link.

Here, for what it's worth is my proposed stub. Maybe someone else can fathom it out!

Family: Trichiuridae (Cutlassfishes), subfamily: Aphanopodinae
Class: Actinopterygii (ray-finned fishes)
Order: Perciformes (perch-like fish)
Species:
Aphanopus Carbo - Espada Preta or Black Scabbardfish: The body of the fish is entirely black and it is shaped like the scabbard of a sword. It is a predator with sharp teeth and can grow to over a metre in length and 2 kilograms in weight. The espada lives in deep water between 200 and 1,700 metres below sea level. The espada is only commercially fished off the shores of Madeira but has also been discovered in seas around Southern Ireland, Japan, North Africa, Portugal, and the Canary Islands.

External link: http://madeiraisland.com/eng/madeira/articles/espada_fish/ http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Aphanopus&speciesname=carbo

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Is it really proper to call a member of this group a Perciforme? Perciformes is Latin, and doesn't necessarily singularize in this manner. Google comes up with some hits, but suggests Perciform is a better option. And personally, when the common name is just a cheap anglicization of the Latin name, I'd rather stick with the latter, especially in cases like this where it will be more widely recognized.

Valid point on the "e" -- I will change it. Perciform can be linked by adding an es to the outside of the double bracket. Then one can simply say that such and such is a perciform instead of having to say that such and such is a member of the Perciformes. --mav

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There is written Belontiidae (gouramies) and Osphronemidae (giant gouramies) but Osphronemidae links to gouramies.

I am not an expert in latin but something must be wrong here.

--User:Kaczor

You're behind the times :-) - Ralf Britz in 2001 apparently made the case for demoting Belontiidae to subfamily Belontiinae of Osphronemidae. See for the citation; both ITIS and FishBase follow Britz now, so we should just go along. Stan 02:37, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Sailfish nominated for SCOTW

I've just nominated the sailfish article as Science Collaboration of the Week. Please visit Wikipedia:Science collaboration of the week and vote for the article. Thanks. - Samsara _contrib ^talk 08:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Uranoscopidae (Stargazers)

This family should be classified here somewhere, unless new phylogenetic information has come about since this publication, which is the first reference cited on the Uranoscopidae Wikipedia article. Zephyrump (talk) 17:24, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Reverting to a previous edit

Hello, I would like to suggest a reversion of the "past classifications" chart to one published before Feb 2020, to better communicate the content of the "traditional" all-inclusive Perciformes. Im not sure how useful it is to cite Nelson 2016 as either a modern or a "traditional" classification, since it's basically a work in progress of relocating taxa into their current states. The text above the table has also not been edited since the reclassification took place. If this is not approved I'd alternately suggest removing the chart as redundant with the Eschemyer classification and Near/Thacker cladogram, and adding a similar comparison to the Percomorpha page. ~2026-27398-61 (talk) 03:58, 6 May 2026 (UTC)