Talk:Papilio glaucus
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Honourable mention
[edit]It may be entirely irrelevant, or it may be worth listing Caterpie under See Also. ~ 24.167.152.121 (talk) 04:27, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]Hey, I just added an image that I took with my digital camera to the article. Let me know what you think.its so totally rad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--65.34.56.150 18:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
- This is not an Eastern! As noted by kb below, it is a Two-tailed Tiger (Papilio multicaudatus) ~ Glacierman
additional photographs include Two-tailed Tiger Swallowtail
[edit]Of the additional photographs at the bottom of the article, only the second (across the top line) -- seems to be a Tiger Swallowtail -- the other adult butterflies among these additional photographs seem to be Two-tailed Tiger Swallowtails. That is an easy mistake to make, there is little difference, but tiny differences are important in scientific comparisons. Do you want me to remove the ones that are incorrect? ---- kb - 2006 0709
- Is the determining factor the blue spots at the bottom of the wings? ~Rangeley (talk) 04:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- No. That is typical of the female Eastern. Photos from life are fine (I like them), but good photos of spread specimens (both upper and undersides) are also needed to clearly show the differences between species. See the discussion page for Papilio appalachiensis in Wikispecies for an example of what I mean. ~ Glacierman 02:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- Rangely, I didn't really answer your question. The Two-Tailed has a second smaller tail, clearly shown in the photo above. There is a Mexican species, Papilio pilumnus which has three tails. ~ Glacierman 02:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Review and Suggestion
[edit]Overall, I believe that the article is very well framed and contains necessary information to serve as a good introduction to its readers. The taxonomy section is very informative as it explains how the species was found/named in a historical context. And, the Description section that explains the butterfly's specific phenotype is easy to follow as there is a good picture guideline. Personally, a section explaining the male species' pudding behavior was particularly interesting and noteworthy. I believe that this section could be strengthened if there is additional information regarding the specific way in which the pudding behavior(extracting sodium ion) aids reproduction. Also, an additional section on migration will be helpful in understanding how this species respond to various environmental factors.
General Comments
[edit]The number of pictures that demonstrated the major points made in the article truly strengthens its quality. The article's neutral tone and large selection of citeed sources speaks to its credibility. I was most interested in the explanation of ‘puddling’ as an attempt to enhance reproduction through the accumulation of sodium ions as well as amino acids. I also have listed additional categories that I think may make the article more comprehensive, but these are completely open to debate. 1) A section on mutualistic behavior specifically as it relates to puddling could indicate how the aggregating tendency of male Papilio glaucus may increase fitness and how it may have evolved in behaviors like shared resource defense to promote cooperation between individuals as well as promote cooperation between individuals. 2) A section describing competition strategies could be useful to elaborate on how intraspecies aggression is used by organisms to increase their own access to resources like mates, nutrition, and territory at the expense of others in their species. 3) A section on migration may be helpful. Many butterfly species cannot survive in the cold weather and need to migrate; however, Eastern Tiger Swallowtails overwinter as chrysalises, a unique feature that could benefit from being emphasized in its own category.
Papilio glaucus subspecies
[edit]I found a paper on this butterfly on ResearchGate and saw that it mentioned a subspecies named Papilio glaucus maynardi. The subspecies is not mentioned in the Wikipedia article unlike some other subspecies, and I was thinking about adding it to the article and/or creating it's own article. Some help would be appreciated. I can also take this time to make a new range map which would include the subspecies.
Here is the paper: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263331640_The_Converse_to_Bergmann's_Rule_in_Tiger_Swallowtail_Butterflies_Boundaries_of_Species_and_Subspecies_Wing_Traits_are_Independent_of_Thermal_and_Host-Plant_Induction Paxicoscolon (talk) 17:43, 24 December 2025 (UTC)
Plagiarism and Translating
[edit]ᏏᏲ ᏂᎦᏓ, ᏃᎴ hello y'all. I've been browsing the ᏣᎳᎩ ᏫᎩ and noticed that translation efforts seem to have totally dropped off. The people working on that project had a huge challenge and I'd like to attempt to continue. I'd like to start with an article on this butterfly. Is it appropriate to reuse pictures from this article? I don't want it to be the exact same, but there's a ton of good info and I don't want to plagiarize the people who worked so hard on it. The wing guide and host plant sections are what I'd really like to have on the ᏣᎳᎩ page as well. What are the ethics of translating Wikipedia articles? Ajadigigage (talk) 17:29, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
- …What?
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