Talk:Pacta conventa
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[edit]I checked http://www.google.com/search?q=%22pacta+conventa%22&pws=0&tbm=bks&tbs=lr:lang_1en&lr=lang_en and it looks like only 3 out of top 18 results discuss the Croatian document, the rest is almost all about the Polish one, and there's something about the Roman times. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- @Joy Pacta conventa (Croatia) gets more views on English Wikipedia. It'd be less confusing to have Pacta conventa (Poland) as the article title as well. Ponor (talk) 12:46, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it looks like this has been the case since we started measuring in 2015.
- I checked Google Books again and I can't actually see that much about the Polish document, and I noticed a lot of 18th century Latin scans, which probably aren't as relevant today. When I restricted the search by date, from 1900 onwards (the URL, still seemingly very specific to my session, got &tbs=lr%3Alang_1en%2Ccdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F1900%2Ccd_max%3A8%2F8%2F2025), there's much more ambiguity apparent.
- I'll disambiguate it then. --Joy (talk) 19:52, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- Curiously, after the move, two things have been consistent:
- page views have continued to be in favor of the second topic
- the only clickstream in meta:Research:Wikipedia clickstream that is consistently identifiable is the first topic
- clickstream-enwiki-2025-08.tsv:
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Poland) link 24
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Croatia) link 12
- total: 36 to 2 identified destinations
- total: 126 from 3 identified sources
- 147 total page views -> 21 filtered clickstreams
- clickstream-enwiki-2025-09.tsv:
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Poland) link 20
- total: 20 to 1 identified destinations
- total: 49 from 2 identified sources
- 54 total page views -> 5 filtered clickstreams
- clickstream-enwiki-2025-10.tsv:
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Poland) link 27
- total: 27 to 1 identified destinations
- total: 69 from 2 identified sources
- 79 total page views -> 10 filtered clickstreams
- clickstream-enwiki-2025-11.tsv:
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Poland) link 48
- total: 48 to 1 identified destinations
- total: 114 from 2 identified sources
- 119 total page views -> 5 filtered clickstreams
- clickstream-enwiki-2025-12.tsv:
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Poland) link 40
- total: 40 to 1 identified destinations
- total: 87 from 2 identified sources
- 93 total page views -> 6 filtered clickstreams
- clickstream-enwiki-2026-01.tsv:
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Poland) link 21
- total: 21 to 1 identified destinations
- total: 79 from 2 identified sources
- 87 total page views -> 8 filtered clickstreams
- clickstream-enwiki-2026-02.tsv:
- Pacta_conventa Pacta_conventa_(Poland) link 16
- total: 16 to 1 identified destinations
- total: 42 from 2 identified sources
- 54 total page views -> 12 filtered clickstreams
- I don't know if there's any possible explanation other than external search engine quirks. After 20 years of generally sending most traffic to the second article, it's hard to say what would cause them to fail to recalibrate here and keep sending us mostly traffic intended for the first article. --Joy (talk) 20:41, 12 March 2026 (UTC)
- Curiously, after the move, two things have been consistent: