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"Duke of Cornwall"

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@Dudley Miles: I think you're probably right to have removed this sentence I'd added:

He was claimed by antiquary Richard Carew to be Duke of Cornwall in 959,^[1]

For the record, I wasn't aiming to claim that he was "Duke of Cornwall", but to show part of his historiography. Another example can be found in Daniell's Compendium of the History of Cornwall (1880):

"Orgarius, father of Elfreda, is recorded to have been duke or earl of Cornwall"^[2]

That said, it's probably going to be misleading to include this unless we can get good reliable sources that explain that was was part of his historiography; that some people made these claims about Ordgar despite it being completely anachronistic. ‑‑Yodin^T 23:10, 22 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

we can say the same thing about him being Ealdorman of Devon, this is a relatively modern invention. The early sources call him Dux Domnoniae (i.e. leader of Dumnonia) and Gaimar describes him as having the fealty of all the 'counts' of Cornwall as well as the barons of Devon, Somerset and Dorset who all held their fiefdoms from him. Ealdorman of Devon is a mistranslation of Dux Domnoniae. Bodrugan (talk) 13:20, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

References

↑ Carew, Richard (1769). Survey of Cornwall. London: E. Law & J. Hewett. p. 78.
↑ Daniell, John Jeremiah (1880). Collins, Joseph Henry (ed.). A Compendium of the History of Cornwall (2nd ed.). Truro: Netherton & Worth. p. 15.

‑‑Yodin^T 23:10, 22 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

[1] Carew, Richard (1769). Survey of Cornwall. London: E. Law & J. Hewett. p. 78.

[2] Daniell, John Jeremiah (1880). Collins, Joseph Henry (ed.). A Compendium of the History of Cornwall (2nd ed.). Truro: Netherton & Worth. p. 15.

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"Duke of Cornwall"