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Source or not Source?

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The article on X-Craft is interesting, but I thought that Operation Source was sufficiently important to justify its own page. Especially so, when the page existed as a redirect. So, I extracted the material from X-Crafts and adapted it to stand alone. At the same time, I abbreviated the description of Source in the original article.

No offence is intended by reverting the article, but I still think that Source should be separately described and the X-Craft article linked to it.

Folks at 137 18:48, 13 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I stumbled upon this subject via the rather good book "Against All Odds" ( http://aviabooks.co.uk/book.php?id=1874&cat=12 ). Which is a great account of Operation Source, and seems to be very well researched. Unfortunately there seems to be precious little information to be found on the internet about it. 82.71.7.193 01:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Grove gives it some coverage, but contradicts some facts presented, & believes X-5 may've laid the fatal charges. TREKphiler hit me ♠ 20:25, 20 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

X5 or X6?

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The paragraph that starts with "X5, commanded by Lieutenant Henty Henty-Creer" seems to discuss the fate of X5, yet the next to last sentence mentions "X6"; maybe it was meant to say "X5" too?

96.22.238.37 (talk) 14:28, 17 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

References

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'Garzke & Dulin' is insufficient as a reference in the footnotes. Can someone provide the title of the book and the other vital referential material, as per Wiki standards? Thank you.  Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.226.4.82 (talk) 13:51, 26 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

'Garzke & Dulin' probably refers to Axis and neutral battleships in World War II, Annapolis, Md. : Naval Inst. Pr., 1985; but this would still need to be confirmed. Earendur (talk) 19:51, 29 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

The article claims the captured RN sailors volunteered crucial information to the Germans

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The article asserts “Upon capture, the crewmen informed the German captain Hans Meyer that there would be explosions under Tirpitz within an hour.” What and where is the evidence for this?

There is a reference after the short paragraph: "World War II's X men, crews of the dangerous X class midget submarines". History Online. 11 March 2018. Retrieved 21 August 2018. This source contains nothing that could support this claim.

Other accounts of Operation Source explicitly contradict this claim. For example: Operation Source World Naval Ships Forums Archive; World Naval Ships; https://www.worldnavalships.com: and Warfare History Network; https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/taking-out-the-tirpitz/

Quite apart from it being unevidenced, it is, on the face of it, a bizarre claim. After all these men did, after all their training and difficulties and risks they should take the first opportunity to inform the enemy how they could counter the very mines they had just laid? POWs were expected to tell the enemy nothing. If this claim is true it would suggest the x-submarine crews were monumentally stupid and/or treacherous. Nothing indicates either of these two things were true.

This assertion needs to be evidenced or removed.

PeterColdridge (talk) 04:20, 14 July 2025 (UTC)Reply