Talk:Olomouc Law Book
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[edit]@Mbdfar: Infoboxes are not required and the article is 1 paragraph long. How does this improve the encyclopedia? Srnec (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Imo it looks better than a floating image and it makes it easier to add information when the article is expanded in the future. I'll probably put some more time into this at some point. Mbdfar (talk) 23:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Italics
[edit]I am not sure what "self contained standalone works" means. A manuscript may contain many texts and a text may be found in many manuscripts. The Benasque and Ballabriga rolls are manuscripts. BnF Français 113–116 is too. They don't need italics. We could name every manuscript after its shelfmark but we would not italicize shelfmarks, would we? Furthermore, italicizing manuscript names and descriptions only increases the likelihood of confusion between manuscripts (object) and text (works) that is rampant on Wikipedia. Srnec (talk) 02:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- I mean it in the sense of a whole completed work, not a chapter or part of a greater set. I would think that a titled work of this description (not simply known from a shelfmark or general identifier) such as this subject would be italicized. The Oracles of Leo the Wise is a manuscript-based work, what is the distinction in your mind? Mbdfar (talk) 02:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- A manuscript is an object, like the book on the desk beside me. A work or text is what is written in the book. You may have the same text, but it will be a different physical copy. Manuscripts work the same. It's just that they were copied by hand. The Oracles of Leo the Wise is a work. From the article: Dozens of manuscripts survive in Europe and the Near East. The Oracles is a work; the manuscripts are physical copies of that work made by hand. Most manuscripts do not have names, just shelfmarks. Srnec (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- This one has a name. If I were to refer to the title of the individual physical copy of the book on my nightstand, whether or not I reference the text inside, I would italicize it.Mbdfar (talk) 16:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Why does infobox book italicize automatically but infobox manuscript does not? Srnec (talk) 18:39, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Probably because some manuscripts are only known by shelfmarks or general identifiers as you stated above. Mbdfar (talk) 20:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- If there is some sort of industry standard you can cite that would be helpful. Otherwise I'll open this discussion up on one of the relevant WikiProjects. Mbdfar (talk) 22:07, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Why does infobox book italicize automatically but infobox manuscript does not? Srnec (talk) 18:39, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- This one has a name. If I were to refer to the title of the individual physical copy of the book on my nightstand, whether or not I reference the text inside, I would italicize it.Mbdfar (talk) 16:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- A manuscript is an object, like the book on the desk beside me. A work or text is what is written in the book. You may have the same text, but it will be a different physical copy. Manuscripts work the same. It's just that they were copied by hand. The Oracles of Leo the Wise is a work. From the article: Dozens of manuscripts survive in Europe and the Near East. The Oracles is a work; the manuscripts are physical copies of that work made by hand. Most manuscripts do not have names, just shelfmarks. Srnec (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)