Talk:Oka Crisis

Hudson Valley location

Hudson Valley "north" of Montreal? Isn't it south of Montreal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.128.151 (talk) 02:36, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

"land defenders"

I first heard this term in the context of the DAPL protests. I think its use in this article is probably anachronistic, but I haven't gone to a library to check the cited sources (yet), so maybe I'm wrong. Prezbo (talk) 12:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

It's not anachronistic if there's no viable substitute for it. In the case of the Gustafsen Lake Stand-off, the resistors use the term Ts'peten Defenders - Ts'peten being the name of the lake, I think the Yinka Dene Alliance also use "land defenders". Generally speaking it's not for non-indigenous to decide what terms indigenous people should use for themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D08:5776:7900:BC9C:7FFF:6FBD:AD12 (talk) 22:08, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Yeah this is a loaded term; sort of like "freedom fighters" or "terrorists" as opposed to a term that does not give evaluation. Abumoh00 (talk) 06:02, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

I disagree that it is a loaded term and agree with the previous comment saying that it isn't for non-indigenous people to correct such language. Bosny1 (talk) 21:23, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

It's evaluative. That's moreso objective.

Also please do not assume ethnicity of users. Abumoh00 (talk) 22:32, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

Article has a lot of issues. but here let's focus on the One Source tag

This topic is dedicated to the extensive use of one source (One Source tag) (York, Geoffrey (1991). People of the pines: the warriors and the legacy of Oka.). This source does not appear to be very NPOV, and other sources should be used to diversify and ground the article, right? Abumoh00 (talk) 06:26, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Should we use the punctuation colon instead of the letter colon?

For me, the letter colon shows up as an empty box on this article, whereas the punctuation colon is visible. I'm on a new Mac, using Ecosia browser, but I tested it on a Chrome browser and another Macbook, and it's the same. Gemini says, "it is recommended to test compatibility, as some external cloud services or command-line tools may still struggle to process alternative Unicode characters."

Also, this article says that Mohawk uses the punctuation colon, whereas the letter colon is used in Budu, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_(letter) Lostpines (talk) 15:13, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I had assumed that by now Unicode support on all platforms would have been sufficient to show “꞉” correctly, but if there are issues we should definitely consider not using it. And if Mohawk-language publishers use the ASCII colon, that’s another strong reason we should follow their lead. There are advantages to using the letter versions, such as automatic word-counting of documents, but it’s not Wikipedia’s job to lead changes such as this. Indefatigable (talk) 15:46, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, it surprises me, too, re: Unicode support.

I'm on board with the ASCII colon for Kanien'kéha/Mohawk words on Wikipedia. Lostpines (talk) 16:28, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

As an amateur typography nerd, it hurt a little bit to revert to the slightly less elegant and less aesthetical ASCII colon. But at least it’s not as ugly as “7” used as a letter in Squamish. They really should switch to the letter Ɂ / ɂ. Indefatigable (talk) 18:46, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

I feel you! Let's replace it once Unicode support improves! Lostpines (talk) 21:36, 23 June 2026 (UTC)