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Latest comment: 4 years ago by 2600:1004:B109:BB50:C83B:65DE:7249:2B60 in topic Great Lakes shipping history

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Hello –

I’m part of the communications team at Northwestern Mutual. We have a few items that would need to be updated to reflect this page. I have included links to several third party articles.

Under “History” in the second to last line, where it states “In 2015, Northwestern Mutual began construction of the Northwestern Mutual Tower and Commons.” We’re suggesting that follows up with “The Tower and Commons opened on August 21st, 2017.” [1] [2] [3] [4]

Under the “Financial Standings” section, the industry ratings that need to be updated are: Fitch Ratings AAA (highest), 11/2016 [5] Moody’s Investor Service, Aaa (highest), 1/2017 [6] S&P Global Ratings of AA+ (second highest), 6/2017 [7]

Currently, it states that NMIS is ranked 6th among independent broker-dealers. This should be changed to 5th to reflect their 2017 report. [8]

Thank you.

Zeljannm (talk) 15:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC) NM CommReply

Hi - just wanted to follow up on this again. Thank you.

Thanks for the input! I included a note that the building was completed, but I removed the entire financial standings section because it seemed to me to be primarily sourced from PR Newswire which just regurgitates press releases and so doesn't really count as a reliable source. It's not clear to me, as a non-financier, what stats are worthy of inclusion, and I would rather not invite the selection bias we should expect by taking from NW Mutual press releases. That said, if we can come up with a financial press assessment of NW Mutual's standings, that would be relevant. -- ke4roh (talk) 13:33, 14 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

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2019 updates

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Hello, we're part of the media relations team at Northwestern Mutual and wanted to make some updates to the content on this page. We'd like to work with administrators on this page that have helped us in the past so we're making sure the updates adhere to Wikipedia's content guidelines. Thank you!

Thank you,

NM-MediaRelations (talk) 21:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reply 19-NOV-2019

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  Edit request declined  

  • Portions of the proposed text were found to be insufficiently paraphrased from the source material. All additions to an article must be placed using an editor's own words and phrases.
  • Kindly rewrite your proposal, taking care to ensure that all sources are properly paraphrased, and feel free to submit that proposal at your earliest convenience.

Regards,  Spintendo  23:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

New section: "Northwestern Mutual Subsidiaries"

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2020 updates

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Hello, I'm part of the media relations team at Northwestern Mutual and wanted to request some updates to the content on this page. We'd like to work with administrators to ensure the updates adhere to Wikipedia's content guidelines. Thank you!

Reply

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This is an improvement over the previous draft, although I still think there needs to be a few more changes to make sure the draft conforms to WP:PROMO. Specifically, in the Operations section, I would suggest removing "Northwestern Mutual has paid dividends to policy owners every year since 1872, and the company’s 2019 dividend payout will be $5.6 billion," as while that interests policy owners, it likely does not interest a general encyclopedia reader. In the Financial Strengths section, I it would be better to phrase it as "Northwestern Mutual has the highest possible financial strength ratings awarded to U.S. life insurers by all four of the major rating agencies," as the current phrasing says that its ratings are better than any other life insurer, but New York Life has similar ratings.[1] Also, I don't think it would be a good idea to include the specific rankings of each agency, as to me that sounds more like WP:PROMO rather than following WP:NOTSTATS. With the subsidiaries, as per WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE, you have to change the wording so it isn't a copy from[2] Similarly, the same problem exists in the about section.[3] After you fix that, I could start integrating your proposal into the article. Zoozaz1 (talk) 22:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)Reply


Reply to Editor feedback

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  • Removed specifics on dividends
  • Changed reference to ratings and removed specific ratings
  • Edited About/Operations sections to address wording so it isn't a copy

Please let me know if the overall proposed changes can now be integrated into the actual article. Thank you for working with me on this. Kosterberg (talk) 11:57, 14 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

I added most of it into the article. I split up the Operations and About section into different sections and put the Leaders section in the infobox. I didn't add "As a mutual organization , Northwestern Mutual operates for the benefit of its clients and policyowners and has no outside shareholders" Wikipedia is not a reliable source, and for a statement like that you would need a reliable third party source. I also didn't add its status as a World's Most Admired company, which doesn't really say much as it is among hundreds of others. Zoozaz1 (talk) 17:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)Reply


Thank you .

Two final small requests.

1. The article opens with the phrase "THE Northwestern Mutual" --- can we please remove "THE" --- the company name is simply "Northwestern Mutual"

2. Some of the numbers in the breakout box are outdated. Could we please update? The correct numbers per NM's publicly disclosed financial results are as follows

Revenue -- (YE 2019) -- $29,855 million [4] Net income (YE 2019) -- $1,268 million [5] Employees (2020) -- 6,000+ [6]

Kosterberg (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

 Done Zoozaz1 (talk) 15:26, 15 September 2020 (UTC)Reply


Three more small requests please:

  1. In the "Key people" section that is now in the infobox, can we list only the CEO (John Schlifske) and remove the other two names?
  2. Can we remove the "Marketing" section. NM no longer sponsors the Rose Bowl Game, and the 'top-level' domain information seems irrelevant to the average reader
  3. Can "Technology" be called "Technology and Innovation" given the content pertains not just to tech per se but to innovation more broadly given the VC investment activity?

Thank you Kosterberg (talk) 14:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Partly done I agree that the marketing pertains more to investment, so I've moved it to investment and innovation to be a bit more neutral. I've deleted the marketing section and moved the content to the history section, and I've removed the two key people. Zoozaz1 talk 23:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

March 2021 - COI editor requesting page updates

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Section to be updated: History

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Current text: As of 2020, the company had $290.3 billion in assets, $29.9 billion in revenues, and $1.9 trillion worth of active life insurance protection and the company worked with more than 4.6 million clients. They managed $161 billion of investments owned by its clients and held or managed through its wealth management and investment services businesses.

Requested update: “As of 2021, the company had $308.8 billion in assets, $31.1 billion in revenues, and $2 trillion worth of active life insurance protection and the company worked with more than 4.75 million clients. They managed $200 billion of investments owned by its clients and held or managed through its wealth management and investment services businesses.”

[1] [2] [3] [4]

Section to be updated: Awards and honors

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Forbes has updated its rankings. Northwestern Mutual is now ranked #368.

Suggested new text: Northwestern Mutual was ranked #368 among America's Best Large Employers 2021 by Forbes.

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Request for section to be removed: Annual Meeting performers

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Can this section please be removed? There is no sourcing for it, and the Annual Meeting is not a public event so it has little to no relevance for the general Wikipedia audience.

Kosterberg (talk) 13:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

 Done Caius G. (talk) 11:55, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you Caius G.. One small edit was missed -- the Forbes ranking is now 2021 (not 2019). Kosterberg (talk) 13:49, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Kosterberg, thanks, fixed it. Caius G. (talk) 14:18, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again Caius G.  Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosterberg (talkcontribs) 15:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC) Kosterberg (talk) 15:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

August 2021 - COI editor requesting updates

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Section to be updated: Intro paragraph

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Current text: Northwestern Mutual ranked No. 111 in the 2019 Fortune 500 list of the largest United States corporations by total revenue

Requested update: Northwestern Mutual ranked No. 90 in the 2021 Fortune 500 list of the largest corporations by total revenue and is in the top 30 by assets held. [1]


Section to be updated: Company Facts box

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Current text:

  • Revenue $29.855 billion USD (2019)
  • Net income $1.268 billion USD (2019)
  • Number of employees 6,000+ (2020)

Requested update:

  • Revenue: $31.1 billion USD (2020) [2]
  • Net Income: $425 million USD (2020) [3]
  • Employees: 6,700+ (2021) [4]


Kosterberg (talk) 16:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Kosterberg:check Done. Heartmusic678 (talk) 16:10, 25 August 2021 (UTC)Reply


Thank you Heartmusic678

Kosterberg (talk) 16:14, 25 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Kosterberg: You're welcome. Heartmusic678 (talk) 16:28, 25 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Great Lakes shipping history

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The Northwestern Mutual was such a huge investor in shipping concerns on the Great Lakes for so long that this probably deserves to be noted in the article. This was not just a typical passive insurance company investment. For example, the famous ore ship Edmund Fitzgerald was named for a Northwestern executive. This wasn't typical of insurance company investment, either in the industry or the level of involvement. This probably would require the participation of a "COI " editor from the company with the assistance/supervision of a Wikipedia admin (or two) not to become too adlike, but would be a fine addition IMO. 2600:1004:B109:BB50:C83B:65DE:7249:2B60 (talk) 18:48, 4 September 2021 (UTC) ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Reply