Talk:Nonkilling

Citations

The term "nonkilling" has entries in the following reference works:

"Nonkilling: A New Paradigm" International Encyclopedia of Peace. Oxford University Press, New York (2009)

"Nonkilling Political Science" Encyclopedia of Violence, Peace and Conflict, 2nd Edition. Elsevier, San Diego (2008)

"Nonkilling Global Society" Encyclopedia of Life Support Systems (EOLSS). EOLSS Publishers, Oxford (2004)

The term "non-killing" has also been part of Buddhist ethics for centuries (will need to be expressed in entry). Besides, there are over 7000 entries in google for "nonkilling" for the used here stated, that started in the mid 80s with the article "Nonkilling and Global Understanding", 1986.

Scope

Nonkilling is an age-old traditional philosophical concept of the Indian Subcontinent, appearing in ancient literature starting from the Vedas, where it originates from the concept of karma and ahimsa and gives rise to the culture of the region, including sattvic dietary concepts, vegetarianism, nonviolence, animal rights, altruism, etc. gradually morphing into modern forms such as veganism, anti-war movement, world peace, abolition of capital punishment, etc. That said, all these facets should be discussed under the scope of this article. The current article, however, deals only with the political facet of the concept as put forth by the Center for Global Nonkilling. This needs to be expanded to include all the generic concepts mentioned above. Rasnaboy (talk) 03:00, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Books published by the Center for Global Nonkilling allowable in article

Regarding this edit by @Avatar317, I'm curious to understand what's special about Nonkilling Global Political Science, a book that is allowed to be mentioned/referenced in this article, and Nonkilling Psychology, a book which apparently is not. Thanks. Gibson Flying V (talk) 18:42, 25 February 2026 (UTC)

Pinging User:Avatar317. We need a response to the above so consensus can be reached about which books are or are not allowed to be mentioned or used as sources and why. Thanks.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 19:14, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Could you please review Wikipedia's policies on sourcing, like WP:RS and essays like WP:IS, those describe which sources are acceptable and which are not. ---Avatar317^(talk) 20:36, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

Additionally, whether a source is acceptable or not depends on what statement or text it is being used to support. If you want you can always ask at WP:RSN for other editor's comments there. ---Avatar317^(talk) 20:41, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

I certainly agree with you that whether a source is acceptable or not depends on what statement or text it is being used to support, so let's look at that:

In 2012 the Center for Global Nonkilling published the volume Nonkilling Psychology edited by Daniel J. Christie and Joám Evans Pim, which featured contributions written by Randy J. Nelson, Douglas P. Fry, Rubén Ardila, Rachel M. MacNair, Marc Pilisuk, Milton Schwebel, Darcia Narvaez and Anthony J. Marsella.^[1]

1. ^ Christie, Daniel J.; Evans Pim, Joám, eds. (2012). Nonkilling Psychology (PDF). USA: Center for Global Nonkilling. Retrieved 23 February 2026.

Could the problem be that I forgot to add the word 'psychologists'? My goal was to show that in 2012 a volume featuring writings about the topic of this article as it relates to psychology by notable psychologists was published. It's not about promotion or name-dropping so much as it's about topic updating, wp:linking and encyclopedia-building. If it's the prominence of the publisher or the editors that bothers you, I suppose I don't have strong feelings about those and would be open to re-wording? I was going for a really transparent, uncontroversial, plain-fact-orientation with that version, and since one of the main sources already being used in the article is Paige, Glenn D. (2009). Nonkilling global political science (2nd rev. English ed.). Honolulu: Center for Global Nonkilling. ISBN 978-0-9822983-0-5. it's not readily apparent why my addition might be contested. Would this be better?

In 2012 the Center for Global Nonkilling published the volume Nonkilling Psychology edited by Daniel J. Christie and Joám Evans Pim, which featured contributions written by psychologists Randy J. Nelson, Douglas P. Fry, Rubén Ardila, Rachel M. MacNair, Marc Pilisuk, Milton Schwebel, Darcia Narvaez and Anthony J. Marsella.^[1]

1. ^ Christie, Daniel J.; Evans Pim, Joám, eds. (2012). Nonkilling Psychology (PDF). USA: Center for Global Nonkilling. Retrieved 23 February 2026.

Or some version of that?--Gibson Flying V (talk) 16:16, 27 February 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining your motivations. I still feel that sourcing this to the publishers or authors is promotional. Can't we find an external (non-related) source which describes the fact that this volume was published and then talks about its effect/notoriety within the psychology field? Analogous to how in news reports on a new discovery, the reporter interviews and includes comments from other scientist(s), often in the same niche field, but who have no relation to the researchers, and can thereby offer an independent, knowledgeable opinion of the believeability/importance of the new discovery? ---Avatar317^(talk) 21:36, 27 February 2026 (UTC)