Talk:Nip

Why is this the main page?

I don't think this sense is used so much more than the other senses, so if you type ‘nip’ it should take you to the disambiguation page. I was looking for something else and the first line of the article seemed to say that the only other articles for ‘nip’ on Wikipedia were abbreviations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.114.146.117 (talk) 01:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

How is it a slur?

How can Nip/Jap be a slur when it is just a shortening of that persons nation of heritage (Nippon/Japan). Should the disambiguation page for Brit list that as an ethnic slur as well?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.169.222.98 (talk • contribs)

Your personal feelings does not trump verifiable sources. --Cold Season (talk) 02:33, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Merge with Jap

'Nip' and 'Jap' have similar etymological roots (being a shortening of 'Nipponese' and 'Japanese' respectively). They also have similar usage, being slurs for Japanese people and things pertaining to Japan. In that case, wouldn't it make sense to merge the articles? Especially since this article is short and doesn't have much potential for expansion. Flameoguy (talk) 00:54, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. These are two separate topics. And your whole reasoning is flawed. --Cold Season (talk) 21:42, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

They're entirely similar topics, and if you think there's a flaw in my reasoning, you're free to explain it. You can't deny the fact that the words have identical etymologies, usages, and meanings. Flameoguy (talk) 21:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

(1) The etymological root of nip is a Japanese term. Jap, an English term. (2) Similar usage—which is a bad likening, such as a Nokia and iPhone are used to call people—does not equal that they are the same, as you're just ignoring that there's a lot more aspects. The topic is about a specific and distinct ethnic slur with its own origin, development, history, social context, etc. (3) Notwithstanding, shortness of an article is not a criteria for a merge. (4) And the separate notability of the ethnic slur nip has been well-established by the sources. (5) The article jap is not a broad-concept article for "slurs against Japanese" in general. (6) The co-existence of multiple different slurs for one group is, in fact, possible. Your whole reasoning is flawed and I will not entertain this further, as it's so flawed that it will not go anywhere. --Cold Season (talk) 13:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

General Kenney's "Vermin Statement" Taken Out of Context? (Full Statement Ascribes These Views to Infantrymen)

I noticed that General Kenney's "vermin statement" is taken out of content. The article's wording implies that Kenney personally viewed the Japanese that way. The article reads:

>George Kenney made racial statements about the Japanese, remarking for example that "Nips are just vermin to be exterminated".

Kenney's original statement is found in his book "General Kenney Reports: A Personal History of the Pacific War." A digital copy of his book is available here:

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA442853.pdf

The full statement says that American and Australian infantrymen adopted this view after seeing evidence of war crimes (such as cannibalism) committed against their comrades. The original line (page 185) is:

>"The diaries were beginning to come in and the translators were busy extracting information. Every Jap kept a diary and wrote down everything he knew in it. A number of them had mentioned cannibalism, but the Australians said that they found plenty of real proof of it during the Sanananda mop-up. No wonder the troops refused to look upon the Japs as human beings. To the American and the Australian, the Nips were just vermin to be exterminated."

I have read Kenney's work, and he does not say he personally viewed the Japanese as vermin or inhuman. He says American and Australian troops did, and then claims this was a response to war crimes. I think the article should either be changed to include the full quote or changed to say something along the lines of "several US generals, such as George Kenney, used the word Nips to refer to the Japanese." As things stand now, Kenney's statement is used in a way which implies those views are his own, rather than the views of front line infantrymen. 35.148.105.142 (talk) 21:17, 12 August 2025 (UTC)