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Latest comment: 9 months ago by Sandstein in topic A spherical safe

Rename to "North Camp Pasture"

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The reference to Perry's ranch doesn't fit the article cited. The only reference to 'North Camp Pasture' is this: "Chuck Wilson, the manager of the Hendrick ranch, said that particular parcel is now called “North Camp Pasture.” “It was given the name several years ago,” Wilson said in an interview last week. “Probably, I’m thinking, about five years ago.” " Obviously, this is controversial, since more accurate statements have been reverted, but perhaps people could talk about it here.----Beamish Son

Reference gave conflicting info on timing but that is irrelevant to the point that it was renamed. That is all that needs to be in this article anyway. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Disambiguation page

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This article still looks like a disambiguation page with a bit more of an introduction than previously. As an article it is severely missing references for the facts asserted. It is still mostly a list of links. I think the disambiguation tags should be put back and the page returned to being a disambiguation page. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:15, 2 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

This page should be a disambiguation page because it is a native grass in Australia with no ties to racism at all. The disambiguation page should then have a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enneapogon_nigricans
It is not right for an encyclopedia to pick and choose which words are racist and have special treatment there-by blocking the normal visibility of non-racist words. 103.232.162.241 (talk) 08:32, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Clearly the racist words have not been blocked. It's on this page and Enneapogon nigricans. Doctorhawkes (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from Stradlater999, 3 October 2011

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A niggerhead is also a term used by seamen for a cylindrical drum attached to an anchor windlass used to pull in mooring lines.

Stradlater999 (talk) 03:23, 3 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Bility (talk) 16:41, 3 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/niggerhead defintion 10 http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/surfskill-a.htm see entry "Bollard" http://books.google.com/books?id=RCgwAAAAYAAJ&q=nigger+head#v=snippet&q=nigger%20head&f=false

Done, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 04:24, 5 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

urban dictionary

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The Urban Dictionary prior to this controversy showed three definitions for this word none of which had anything to do with Afro-Americans. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=niggerhead

1. niggerhead

An antiquated logging and trucking term used to define a large round rock or outcropping of rocks usually on an unpaved road bed that could damage a vehicle. "Now be careful up here,there's a niggerhead as you come out of the turn."

2. niggerhead

Being extremely lazy and/or stupid. "Shit bitch, all I wants to do is sleep. I ain't goin' to work, today. I've got the niggerhead, bad."

3. niggerhead

A strong black chewing tobacco, usually in twisted plug form Guy1: "Wow, niggerhead is a really racist name for tobacco, eh?" Guy2: "I agree my good man"

Your own Wikitionary shows:

niggerhead (plural niggerheads)

   (nautical) A bollard made from an old cannon.
   An isolated part of a coral reef.
   The coneflower.
   Hard tussock on tundra; often moss

No matter what its origin the word is not offensive unless it is used offensively. And there is a lot of evidence that contradicts the Washington Post's reporting.

Edit request from Chuckstanger, 3 October 2011

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Add to Niggerhead page: An example of common usage of this vile term is its longstanding use as a synonym for a nautical mooring bollard. The reasoning? "Because they look so good with a rope around them." Recent experience suggests this slang is gradually slipping from common use.

Chuckstanger (talk) 16:18, 3 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.Bility (talk) 16:45, 3 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Change to grammar, invalid connotation

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  • Niggerhead hunting camp, the former name of a hunting camp of Texas governor Rick Perry, renamed to "North Camp Pasture".[1]

This should be changed to "used by Texas Governor Rick Perry" instead of "of Texas governor Rick Perry ... Rick Perry did not own the camp, but his family paid a fee to use a portion of over 44,000 acres of land when he was a young adult... the connotation of "of Texas governor" is that he owned it .. and is just generally bad grammar

Seigex (talk) 04:08, 5 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Not done: {{edit semi-protected}} is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages.Bility (talk) 23:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
  1. Cite error: The named reference Washington Post 2 October 2011 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

Edit request from , 5 October 2011

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I suggest that the title "'Niggerhead' is part of the name of:" be changed to "'Niggerhead' and what often is considered to be equally offensive 'Negro Head' are part of the name of the following non-exclusive list of features:" and that the listing under that heading be expanded to include the following:

Niggerhead, New Zealand, (mountain) [Lat: 42°40'0 S; Long: 172°12'0 E] Niggerhead, Australia, State of Queensland (rock) [Lat: 17°36'0 S; Long: 146°8'0 E] Niggerhead Creek, Yukon, Canada (river) [Lat: 62°23'10" N; Long: 140°50'15" W] Niggerhead Mountain, Yukon, Canada (mountain) [Lat: 62°13'30" N; Long: 140°50'15" W] Nigger Head, Australia, State of Queensland (point) [Lat: 10°36'55 S; Long: 142°38'0 E] Nigger Head, Ontario, Canada (cape) [Lat: 44°18' N; Long: 76°26' W] Nigger's Head, India, (rock) [Lat: 18°53'0 N; Long: 72°49'0 E] Nigger Hill, Australia, State of Western Australia (hill) [Lat: 15°53'0 S; Long: 128°47'0 E] Nigger Stream, New Zealand, (stream) [Lat: 43°1'0 S; Long: 172°3'0 E] Negro Head, Papua New Guinea, (headland) [Lat: 10°32'0 S; Long: 150°53'0 E] Negro Head, Belize, Toledo District (point) [Lat: 16°16'0 N; Long: 88°32'0 W] Negro Head, Belize, Belize District (island) [Lat: 17°15'0 N; Long: 88°5'0 W] Negro Head, USA, Florida: Lee, Fort Myers SW (cape) [Lat: 26°33'50 N; Long: 81°55'15 W] Negro Head, USA, Texas: Reeves, Barrilla Mountains East (peak) [Lat: 30°50'5 N; Long: 103°33'18 W] Negro Head, USA, California: San Bernardino, Solomons Knob (peak) [Lat: 35°23'51 N; Long: 115°49'50 W] Negro Head, USA, California: Mendocino, Jamison Ridge (peak) [Lat: 39°38'45 N; Long: 123°11'45 W] Negro Head, USA, Maine: Knox, Isle Au Haut East (cliff(s)) [Lat: 44°5'12 N; Long: 68°35'48 W] Negro Head, USA, Alaska: Lake and Peninsula, Chignik B-2 (cliff(s)) [Lat: 56°20'38 N; Long: 158°26'0 W] Negrohead, USA, Texas: Travis, Travis Peak (peak) [Lat: 30°33'22 N; Long: 98°3'22 W] Negrohead, USA, Texas: Burnet, Lake Buchanan (peak) [Lat: 30°46'48 N; Long: 98°22'44 W] Negrohead, USA, New Mexico: Hidalgo, Pyramid Peak (peak) [Lat: 32°12'1 N; Long: 108°44'11 W] Negrohead, USA, Arizona: Mohave, Oatman (peak) [Lat: 35°3'15 N; Long: 114°24'25 W] Negrohead, USA, Arizona: Mohave, Pakoon Springs (peak) [Lat: 36°24'14 N; Long: 113°56'36 W]

The supporting reference that you could append to the suggested phrase "equally offensive" would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger#Place_names

The supporting references for the suggested additional names for the list are (1) The Fuzzy Gazetteer (http://isodp.hof-university.de/fuzzyg/query/); and (2) Canadian Council on Geomatics (http://www.geodata.us/canada_names_maps/maps.php?featureid=FDQDP&f=218; http://www.geodata.us/canada_names_maps/maps.php?featureid=KAEQE&f=312; http://www.geodata.us/canada_names_maps/maps.php?featureid=KAEQH&f=312).

Stephen Kent Ehat (talk) 06:07, 5 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Not done: {{edit semi-protected}} is not required for edits to semi-protected, unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. I would drop the "equally offensive" bit though unless a third-party source refers to it that way, otherwise it's just editorializing. — Bility (talk) 23:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Chamberlain Rock - University of Wisconsin

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A rock that was nicknamed a "niggerhead" in 1925, which has led to it's removal after being deemed a racist rock. Many news articles covering this, but they can be biased (either "yes boys we did it racism is no more!" Or "what on earth is going on here? Racist rocks!?" As the outcall of a situation like this usually merits) so I link a few here, and discuss. LucasImpulse (talk) 17:35, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

LucasImpulse (talk) 17:38, 13 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs

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I removed the link to chocolate-coated marshmallow treats as the lemma of this article is "niggerhead" whis is different from "negro head" or similar, which was a common name for those sweets. From the perspective of offensive language, these are two different categories. Put it somewhere into negro if you need, but not here. --Gunnar (talk) 16:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

A spherical safe

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In the semi-fictional crime novel Final Score, by Emmett Grogan, there are detailed descriptions of safe-cracking that include the defeat of a spherical safe described as being known in the safe-cracking fraternity a "n*****head keister" (keister here being an archaic usage referring to a kind of container, not to the posterior part of the human anatomy). Note that I was tagged as a vandal of Wikipedia for using the title of the page for which the page you are currently reading is the Talk Page!

Regarding the use of the term n*****head in patents, I was frankly surprised to not find it in use as an alternate term for "dollhead", which was a common style of catchment used for locking the action of a break-barrel firearm.

In any case, here is the reference for the usage found in the novel which is (as of today) the only example returned by Google, which is notable in itself, but the term also appears to be an Hapax legomenon: https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/http://ep.newdu.com/r29030.html

It seems that Grogan lifted his description from Bruce Jackson's book A Thief's Primer: https://archive.org/details/thiefsprimer0000bruc_l8k3/page/52/mode/1up

I feel silly for self censoring here, but apparently I am a fugitive from Wikipedia justice and must do this or face the prospect of being banned! 2600:1700:6AE5:2510:0:0:0:24 (talk) 00:06, 14 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED, you can write "niggerhead" here for the purpose of discussing the article. But a single use of the word in a novel is not worth mentioning in the article. Sandstein 09:55, 14 October 2025 (UTC)Reply