Talk:Nigel Havers

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If you think that Mr. Havers is well-known for "hatred of cyclists" then perhaps you should provide some citations for this. In the mean time, I'm going to continue to delete that whenever you put it back. DrHydeous 21:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou for providing your source for that. It still doesn't show that he hates cyclists though, so I've corrected the text to merely point out that he wrote an attack on inconsiderate cyclists. DrHydeous 17:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry DH, but I disagree. From the article in the Mail:

"Pomposity and selfishness runs through everything committed cyclists do."

and

"Cyclists have certainly changed in recent years. They think the rest of us are idiots and that they are the gods of the road."

and

[insert spurious red herring argument about environmentalism here]

The article is cloaked as an attack on inconsiderate cyclists but only weakly so. Havers' agenda is visible from start to finish; he conflates all cyclists with "two-wheeled monsters", despite his odd admittance to owning a bike himself.

However, I won't undo your changes; others can make up their own minds. — Hex (❝?!❞) 23:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

The passage is certainly too long, but not irrelevant. I've tidied the article so that the "family and private life" and "controversy" sections are clearly separate from his career. The "trivia" section also contained significant material, so I incorporated it ito the main body of the article. Philip Cross 10:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Date Of Birth

There seems a lot of conflicting info around regarding his date of birth.

• Sources such as this interview and here would suggest it's 1951. (57 in June & Sept 2009)
• While this source says it's 1950, and this agrees.
• While here and here say 1949.

Anyone have a definitive and reliable source? Failing that, I would suggest we go with what the man himself says, as indicated in my first link above. He may be wrong, he may be 'massaging the figures', but it's the most authoritative source available; himself. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 00:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't quibble with the 1951 date, but not because Havers himself said so. The thing is that, although an individual is present at their own birth, an advantage that most researchers cannot claim to have, they are hardly in a position to say with absolute authority exactly when that birth occurred. They know what date they were told by their parents, or what date appears on their birth certificate. Also, actors are a vain lot, and relying on what they tell the world about their ages is a very slippery slope. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 19:19, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Added citation to the England & Wales BMD registry, which says 1951. Theheartof (talk) 09:10, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Comments on cyclists

The section on Havers' comments on cyclists seems very out of place. I'm sure he's made many comments about many different things but that doen't mean they're relevent. Maybe I missing somthing but it just doesn't seem to be important enough to be in this article. SayPeanuts (talk) 21:33, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

No joke. I removed it. Meaningless tabloid trivia. Softlavender (talk) 00:06, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Article that mentions father and grandfather

I see that this Wiki article needs citations for the info about Nigel's father and grandfather. Here is one: . Softlavender (talk) 00:04, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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Radio work

This article could do with a sub-heading "Radio Work". I have heard he was in a BBC Radio 4 sitcom called "Reluctant Persuaders", along with Josie Lawrence.Vorbee (talk) 19:02, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

1969 song

Re this edit: there are problems with WP:OR, which says that "Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources themselves." While I'm not saying that it isn't Nigel Havers singing on side B, this isn't clearly confirmed by the source at . It's also rather obscure as the record label is the only online source that I could find mentioning this, so there are also problems with WP:DUE.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Unreferenced material moved from main article

The following unreferenced material has been moved from main article to Talk. Please feel free to reverse this once good references can be found.

• He opted against the Eton education traditional in his family, although his father had attended Westminster School, because he thought that fagging "sounded frightful".
• Havers's first acting job was in the radio series Mrs Dale's Diary and he subsequently went on to working for the Prospect Theatre Company initially "carrying a spear and making cups of tea" as he puts it in his autobiography.
• In the 1970s, Havers was a researcher for nine years on the Jimmy Young radio show, particularly responsible for enticing politicians due to his father's contacts, including helping obtain Margaret Thatcher's first radio interview.
• From an early age Havers had an eye for the ladies; Kenneth More, a friend of his father, advised a young Havers that "If you are charming, you don't have to ask them to go to bed, they ask you".
• He describes his experiences with an early leading lady, Maxine Audley thus: "I was in her dressing room doing whatever she asked me to, and I mean anything and everything.
• One afternoon I sauntered into her dressing room, still in my officer's kit, only to find a similarly clad new member of the cast rehearsing what I had perfected over the past few months.
• My time was up. She blew me a kiss and I slid away.
• Actually, I was rather relieved, I needed a rest."
• After his theatre work, Havers slid into a period of acting unemployment, during which time he worked for a wine merchant.
• He ended this part of his career when his girlfriend, who later became his first wife, Carolyn Cox, suggested they move in together in 1974.
• Dinmont is in the Rolls-Royce when Georgina accidentally kills a farmer on a bicycle.
• Dinmont refuses to testify on Georgina's behalf at a preliminary trial, as he was passed out drunk in the back seat and did not witness the accident.
• Havers and Clarke played former KGB spies who had assimilated into English life in the 1960s and were "lost" for 25 years.
• Successfully and happily living as Englishmen, their worlds are turned upside-down when they discover that the KGB is looking for them.
• As they resist going back to Russia, the ex-spies lead the KGB, CIA, and MI5 on a madcap chase through England.
• He left on 13 August 2010. He returned to the role on 17 February 2012 and left again on 1 February 2013.
• He returned again on 1 June 2018 and remained in Coronation Street until the character's death on 1 January 2019.
• In the episode, Hepworth is discovered having an affair with Lady Rosamund's maid and outed as a "fortune hunter".
• Series creator Julian Fellowes remarked in his book of teleplays for the second series of Downton Abbey that "no one in Equity is better" than Havers "at playing a cad".
• Havers has written of the depression he experienced trying to choose between his marriage to Carolyn Cox and their young daughter Kate, born in 1977, and his mistress, Polly Williams.
• During this time, he consulted a psychiatrist at the Devonshire Hospital in London. Havers and Williams married in 1989, and the marriage lasted until her death on 24 June 2004.
• A blessing was held in Saint Tropez the following month.
• Following his wife's death, Havers took legal action, claiming her will left him without "reasonable financial provision".
• The case was settled before court; Havers was awarded £375,000 and proceeds from the sale of some of his late wife's belongings.
• In 2024 he was the narrator of a new Channel 4 series Help! We Bought a Hotel.

Please feel free to reintroduce each point back to the main article once a good reference has been found for each point that goes back.James Kevin McMahon (talk) 02:48, 8 February 2026 (UTC)