Talk:Naval Group

This part is doubtful and potentially harmful (and defamatory)

hello,

May I contest the following paragraph from DCNS's french company article, which seems biased:

First of all, an investigation was opened by the French Justice concerning the award of contract for Malaysian submarines signed by DCN International. No facts of corruption can be filed against DCNS.

Also, the references links are doubtful such as : - http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/fmt-english/news/general/4993-french-legal-team-in-malaysia-to-probe-sub-deal —> FreeMalaysiaToday (independant mangazine) which is used 3 times in such a short part of text.

- http://www.vancouversun.com/business/French+judges+begins+bribery+probe/6576987/story.html —> doesn’t work 404 Error

I suggest to delete this part or, at least, to propose a new content that would be more partial.

Thank You.

Controversy

The DCN / DCNS plays a major role in “one of France's biggest political and financial scandals of the last generation [that left] a trail of eight unexplained deaths, nearly half a billion dollars in missing cash and troubling allegations of government complicity” connected to a sale of warships to Taiwan in the 1990s.

Scorpène submarine before delivery to Malaysia

Apart from the issues surrounding the sale of ships to Taiwan mentioned above, French prosecutors started investigating a wide range of corruption charges in 2010 involving different submarine sales, with possible bribery and kickbacks to top officials in France. In particular interest by the prosecutors are sales of Scorpène submarines to countries like India and Malaysia. The investigation in Malaysia has been prompted by human rights group Suaram as it involved current Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak when he was defence minister and his friend Abdul Razak Baginda whose company Primekar was alleged to be paid a huge commission during the purchase of two Scorpène submarines. French investigators are interested in the fact that Perimekar was formed only a few months before the contract was signed with the Malaysian government and DCNS and that Primekar had no track record in servicing submarines and did not have the financial capability to support the contract. Investigations have also revealed that a Hong Kong-based company called Terasasi Ltd in which the directors are Razak Baginda and his father, sold classified Malaysian navy defence documents to DCNS. Also under scrutiny are allegations of extortion and the murder of Shaariibuugiin Altantuyaa, a translator who worked on the deal.

On 15 December 2015, French courts indicted Bernard Baiocco, former president of Thales International Asia for paying kickbacks to Abdul Razak Baginda. At the same time director of shipbuilder DCN International was indicted for misuse of corporate assets.

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History of the Shipyards

Have I missed something here but didnt we use to have an individual page for the Arsenal de Lorient, as wikipedia.fr. If we are going to be redirected to the Naval page couldn't we detail the history here as well.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_de_Lorient Lǐshìmǎn (talk) 11:49, 26 January 2025 (UTC)