Talk:Nancy Ward
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Beloved woman
[edit]She is the last woman to receive the title of Beloved Woman until the late 20th century Who since then? Possibly Wilma Mankiller? -Corvus cornix
- Maggie Wachacha, Eastern Band Cherokee. -Uyvsdi (talk) 23:33, 22 January 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Neat stuff
[edit]Someone has fleshed out this entry since I last looked at it, and added some great detail. Please use in-line sources and footnote these great contributions. This article has some real potential now. Regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 12:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC).
I added the information from the Moravian Journals that her Cherokee name was "Chiconehla". I don't know how to set up the reference notes using the Wikipedia format. (Occonpstota) (207.245.188.95 (talk) 13:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)).
Not colonial
[edit]Colonial implies at some level being under the power of a foriegn authorit. Nanvcy Ward never recognied auhority beyond the Cherokees. He should not be classed as colonial. Her father may have been of European descent (although this is disputed) and her husband may have been European, but this no more made her European than any other out marriage. She lived in Cherokee land, in a place under Cherokee government. She was not within the direct area of British control.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:08, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
- This is one of a number of discussions (started by John Pack Lambert) that are forked from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 November 16#Category:Tennessee colonial people. Rather than conduct discussions of this topic in a dozen different places, let's have just one discussion. Please continue the discussion at the WP:CFD page. --Orlady (talk) 06:07, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
Kingfisher in Cherokee is not Tsu-la that is the word for Red Fox. The word for Kingfisher in Cherokee is Chv-tlo. Dhanren7 (talk) 07:20, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
Erroneous infobox image
[edit]User:CDA questioned this image on commons:File talk:Nanyehi.jpg in 2012 with a comment
So I searched the Internet and found that this image is NOT an image of Nancy Ward but of Ah-hee-te-wah-chee painted (from life I believe) in 1836. Nancy Ward is thought to have died about 1823. So it depends on when Nancy died and if this image was painted from life (I think Catlin always painted from life but I'm not sure). I think it is a Cherokee woman because archivists have tagged it Cherokee but that also should be double-checked. It's been let loose on the Internet as "Nancy Ward" and I don't see how to stop it so I won't take it down. It would be appropriate to represent her if it could be verified that Ah-hee-te-wah-chee is Cherokee. IMHO.
The only source on Commons given for this image being Ward is a 1990s personal website essay on meyna.com about Ward that uses the picture.
It's a reproduction of a plate from Catlin's 1841 Letters and Notes on the Manners, Customs, and Conditions of the North American Indians where he doesn't name the subject, merely describing her as a very interesting specimen of the Cherokee women
. (There are other painted versions of the plate that look similar to the meyna.com image.) In an 1848 catalogue he describes her as Ah-hee-te-wah-chee; a very pretty woman, in civilized dress, her hair falling over her shoulders.
A 2012 travel blog notes this portrait being in use on an information board at Ward's grave site, and expresses doubt about this, the blogger also identifying it as Catlin's portrat of Ah-hee-te-wah-chee. The same board was still there in 2020.
With no reliable sources currently given for the subject's identity as Ward, I'll remove the image from this article and request appropriate corrections on Commons. Belbury (talk) 10:32, 10 March 2026 (UTC)
Sharon Irla
[edit]I have emailed Sharon Irla today and asked if we can use her beautiful painting, a small image of course, for this page. Let's hope she reads her email! If anyone knows her could you please ask her for permission to use the image. CDA 07:26, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
New York Times article, July 2026
[edit]Hey everyone!
For interested editors, a New York Times article from July 6, 2026 on Nanyehi - Hero or Traitor? The Legacy of a Revolutionary-Era Cherokee Woman.
Interesting read that may be of value to the page. I leave it to editors with more experience on the topic if the source is valuable enough for additions to her Wikipedia article.
Happy editing!
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