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Latest comment: 8 months ago by Redrose64 in topic BR numbers

Edward

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"Edward the Blue Engine from The Railway Series bears a close resemblance to the D34."

I think the only resemblance is that they are both 4-4-0s. Does anybody object if I remove this statement? Biscuittin (talk) 13:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

It appears to be a personal opinion, rather than encyclopaedic, so it can go.Pyrotec (talk) 17:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Done. Biscuittin (talk) 18:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, guys, have slipped-up with this one. According to the Rev Awdry (in his book The Island of Sodor, ...) Edward is "a 4-4-0 of uncertain ancestry, borrowed in 1915 from the Furness Railway...", "...It is generally thought he began life on the Furness as one of their Sharp Stewart 'Larger Seagulls' of 1896..." (Furness Railway K2). According to Edward's own article, the NBR D20 has been identified as a closer match than the Seagulls, and this is mentioned on a particular well-regarded site. Expect to see the 'in fiction' section reappearing in the future -- our younger editors are fond of re-inforcing the links between real and fictional locos. (I usually find it's best to 'get in first', stating the known details. It's easier to defend this.)
EdJogg (talk) 01:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Splitting Infoboxes

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Due to the high complexity of the infobox, should it be split into the subclasses? (D26/D32/D33/D34) Would certainly look neater per infobox, but then we'd have quite a few infoboxes (even if they only showed the change from the first unit, ie D26) Lukeno94 (talk) 09:38, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

It's a problem with several of the articles on NBR locos, due to a misunderstanding of NBR locomotive classification. The letter classifications such as "K Class" were introduced on 1 September 1913, and were merely an indication of power capability, rather like the Midland or LMS would put "class 3P" or similar, so it's not an indication that all the K Class locos are of similar design. A better way of naming Wikipedia articles would have been to use the other NBR classification, the one which identifies by the first loco built, thus:
  • NBR 317 class - LNER Class D26
  • NBR 882 class - LNER Class D32
  • NBR 331 class - LNER Class D33
  • NBR 149 class - LNER Class D34
In the last case, these were better known as the Glen class. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Railway Roundabout photo

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The photograph in the Railway Roundabout section is captioned as being "about to start the trip from Glasgow Queen Street to Fort William." That can't possibly be true: the photograph is at a rural station with curved platforms, while Glasgow Queen Street is in the middle of the city and has straight platforms except for slighty curves at the end where the tracks converge towards points. Dricherby (talk) 11:54, 15 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Looks to me like Crianlarich… but I’ve asked a good friend who spent his entire railway career on the WHL to take a look. The problem is, it’s a trip from GLQ to FTW, but the photo on Commons doesn’t give any information… Danners430 tweaks made 12:03, 15 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
My friend has all but confirmed it to be Crianlarich Upper Danners430 tweaks made 12:17, 15 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
The Commons file desc page says "A double header from Glasgow Queen Street to Fort William", which probably means that the train is at some point between those two stations. Anyway, it's certainly not Queen Street - not with background scenery like that. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:52, 15 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

BR numbers

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For the attention of Danners430, regarding this revert. It was a valid addition: BR allotted new numbers to all locos in about March 1948, but it took a few years to actually apply the numbers, and so some were withdrawn before the new number could be applied. Reference books usually denote these using parentheses. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:00, 29 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

But if they never carried the number should they be in the table? Danners430 tweaks made 22:01, 29 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
It's verifiable historical information, plus, some people might ask why they were not renumbered by BR. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:45, 31 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
That's fair - happy to self-rv then :)
Sidenote… I do love it when people actually discuss this sort of thing - I make mistakes like anyone else…! Danners430 tweaks made 13:13, 31 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:06, 2 November 2025 (UTC)Reply