Talk:Murray River

Indigenous names

I would propose using five different indigenous names for the Murray.

(Ngarrindjeri: Murrundi, Barapa Bapara: Mile or Mirri, Yorta Yorta: Dhungala, Wiradjuri: Milawa, Ngarigu: Indi)

The entry for Ngarrindjeri is currently wrong. This should be Murrundi.

Reference: https://nativetitle.org.au/publications/ngarrindjeri-nation-yaruwar-ruwe-plan

The majority of the tribes appear to use a variation on Mile or Milloo (i.e. Barapa Bapara: Mile or Mirri; Wemba Wemba: Mile; Wadi Wadi: Miilu, Milu, Milloo, Millooie; Latje Latje: MiUoo, Millieu; etc). The following is a reference for the Barapa Bapara usage of the names.

Reference: http://doi.org/10.1080/17445647.2019.1701574

The Yorta Yorta word Dhungala to remain unchanged but remove Tongala. There are simply too many variations to list these per language group (i.e. just for Yorta Yorta you have Dhungala, Dunghala, Tongala, Dungala, Dunggula, Dhungulla, Fingola)

The word Millewa seems to be the generic word used as an aboriginal name for the Murray, but I haven't managed to locate a reference to any particular tribe. I'm speculating that this word was taken was from the Wiradjuri people at Albury. They currently use Milawa.

Reference: https://wiradjuri.wcclp.com.au/letters/m/words/89839

Indi for the upper Murray above Bringenbrong. It is likely a Ngarigu word from either the Ngarigo or Yaitmathang tribes that historically lived in the upper Murray, taken from a word that means "water plant" (indi or ingi). The Wiradjuri use the word Yindi for this section.

Reference: https://www.aec.gov.au/profiles/vic/indi.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by ETA Unknown (talk • contribs) 06:08, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

River diversion

Perhaps a small section can describe the plan to divert the murray river inland and break the connection with the sea. This could halt the salination which is now on the rise and increases water availability for adelaide. See http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/04/murray-darling/draper-text/9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.182.172.175 (talk) 17:54, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

as someone who lives very close to the murray mouth that would be terrible and destroy the entire Coorong national Park Timetocheese (talk) 01:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

PS Etona

A Google search shows that this 124-year-old vessel still exists, and has been fully restored. IMHO this article is definitely a keep, and should have been marked as a stub instead of being nominated for merging into the Murray River article. Bahudhara (talk) 01:37, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

There are two Etonas listed at List of Murray–Darling steamboats. Was there also a separate article? Doug butler (talk) 07:24, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

No, but the earlier vessel is now briefly mentioned in the stub article. In the List of Murray–Darling steamboats, the first vessel is mentioned twice, as Etona (1), and as Alma. Bahudhara (talk) 08:39, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

First crossing?

The article currently has River crossings Main article: List of crossings of the Murray River The Murray River has been a significant barrier to land-based travel and trade. Many of the ports for transport of goods along the Murray have also developed as places to cross the river, either by bridge or ferry. The first bridge to cross the Murray, which was built in 1869, is in the town of Murray Bridge, formerly called Edwards Crossing. To distinguish this bridge from the many others that span the Murray River, this bridge is known as Murray River road bridge, Murray Bridge Tolls applied on South Australian ferries until abolished in November 1961.

But the Union Bridge at Albury-Wodonga opened in 1861??? See OPENING OF THE UNION BRIDGE, ALBURY. (1861, September 4). The Albury Banner and Wodonga Express (NSW : 1860 - 1938), p. 3. Retrieved June 5, 2023, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article264149304

and there are other articles

The main article does not list earlier iterations of the Union Bridge.

Matilda ^talk 06:45, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Drying up

"It has dried up completely during extreme droughts on three occasions since official record-keeping began." More info would be great! When did this happen? What is the source for this statement? yoyo (talk) 12:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

That statement is quite probably true, but to remain in the article, it really should be sourced. I just did a quick search. There's a quite a lot of articles out there that talk about droughts and their effects on the Murray-Darling river system. This one mentions several times when the Darling ceased to flow, but is a bit thin on such details for the Murray itself. There probably are sources, but someone with more time than I have right now needs to hunt them down. HiLo48 (talk) 23:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC)