Talk:Morgen

One man & one ox?

The definition of this unit is given as "the amount of land tillable in the morning hours of a day by one person behind an ox or horse dragging a single bladed plough"; however there is a long discussion here that suggests this arrangement is unlikely, that ploughing with oxen typically involved two men with a team of two beasts. So should this be "one man and a horse or one plough team of two men and two oxen"? And where does it come from? There isn’t a source given for it (and if this definition is embedded in folklore, would it be reliable anyway?) Does anybody know? Moonraker12 (talk) 10:32, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Lede is self-contradicting and rambly

First it says:

its area once ranged from 1,906 to 11,780 square metres (0.471 to 2.911 acres), but usually between 1⁄4 to 1⁄2 hectare (0.62 to 1.24 acres)

Later it says:

The area measure of the morgen varied regionally, but it was usually between one-fifth to half a hectare (2,000 to 5,000 m²). In northern Germany, there were also morgens of 6,000 to 9,000 square meters, and in the marshes, up to over 11,000 square meters.

Overall it's kind of rambling and goes back and forth and could really use some consolidation. I might give it a shot if I have time this weekend, but would appreciate anyone else pitching in! -- Avocado (talk) 13:10, 4 April 2025 (UTC)