Talk:Moose test

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Citroën Xantia as previous record holder for 26 years

I've reinstated the Xantia as holding the record for 26 years is no small beans, and worthy of inclusion. I see that it was removed by a two-part process - after some borderline puffery was added here, the entire section was removed. I assume good faith, but reversion of the edit would have been the better option to keep the status quo. Accept that it's been like this for a while but this is a low traffic page - not having been edited since 19th Feb when this removal was carried out. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:04, 23 August 2026 (UTC)

But...

"In reality, the test is constructed to simulate, for example, a reversing car or a child rushing out onto the road. This is because it is more likely that the moose will continue across the road than remain in place or turn back, making it more advisable to brake hard and try to slip behind the animal than to swerve in front of it."

The test simply judges the vehicles ability to dodge an obstacle quickly. It doesn't specify that you must go "in front" of the moose. The diagram shows you swerving left then right. That could be either in front of or behind the moose, either way it's going to involve sudden hard steering. The maneuver is identical either way. Why would you have to evade any differently to try to go behind the animal than in front of it? It doesn't appear the rest involves an actual moving obstacle that you need to try to move around the front of as it moves out into the road. It's just a line around two barriers. That could just as easily be representing the recommended path around the rear of the moose as it moves from left to right across the road. I can see clarifying get the test doesn't represent going in front of the animal as that's not recommended, but not claiming that it doesn't actually represent a moose. They call it the moose test because that's a very plausible obstruction that people will likely experience in that region and it's important that you do evade it, unlike many animals where they recommend not evading, because it's more dangerous than simply hitting it after decelerating. A moose is likely to fall onto a car and crush it, so it's important that a vehicle be able to evade it safely. You can absolutely say that it doesn't only represent moose, but any sudden obstacle (although those aren't necessarily wise to make sudden maneuvers to avoid. A child, yes, a car backing into the road, maybe not), but I don't see any point in saying it doesn't represent evading a moose because obviously a moose only crosses roads right to left and the test is of evading to the left and right, so therefore it must represent an attempt to swerve in front of the animal. They called it the moose test because that was what they had in mind. It doesn't suggest that's the only scenario is useful in. Idumea47b (talk) 22:19, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you're asking for here? It seems quite a convoluted commentary, and the section you've highlighted makes it clear that despite being called the Moose Test, it's really a test of emergency manoeuvrability, not how well a car can avoid a moose stationary on the road - although a moose is a plausbile contender? Chaheel Riens (talk) 20:07, 27 August 2026 (UTC)