Talk:Mighty Doom
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GA review
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Nominator: Vestigium Leonis (talk · contribs) 12:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 22:11, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
This was a cute little game while it lasted. I'll take a look soon. λ NegativeMP1 22:11, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Prose
[edit]- The lead and infobox say the game is a roguelike but the article body only says "roguelite mechanics".
- "Familiar Doom enemies, like the Baron of Hell, appeared as toy-like versions," I feel like this would read better and be more neutral if it was just a sentence saying that several Doom enemy designs had been adapted for the artstyle, rather than singling out the Baron of Hell for the lead.
- Good point, what do you think about this adjustment for the lead: "Several enemy designs from the Doom franchise were adapted to a toy-like art style and …" I would phrase this a little bit differently in the body afterwards. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 10:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, I like this. λ NegativeMP1 22:39, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Good point, what do you think about this adjustment for the lead: "Several enemy designs from the Doom franchise were adapted to a toy-like art style and …" I would phrase this a little bit differently in the body afterwards. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 10:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Mini Slayer could probably be linked to Doomguy.
- Upon taking a closer look, I tried to address this by adding some context and linked Doomguy. The Doomguy article currently includes only one sentence about the Mini Slayer, so I thought it would be better to explain the connection here. Your thoughts? Vestigium Leonis (talk) 10:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- "The game also offered gamepad support, allowing players to utilize controllers via Bluetooth connection." This is definitely a relevant detail that needs to be here but is there any reason why it's thrown in-between a brief description of the game mechanics?
- "Familiar enemies from the Doom franchise, including the Baron of Hell, were portrayed as toy-like versions." I'm still uncertain about the usage of "familiar".
- I'll adjust this once we agree on the replacement above. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 11:01, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- "Players were also able to utilize the glory kill system from the Doom reboot duology," Given that Doom: The Dark Ages now exists, wouldn't this be better off as "trilogy"? But at the same time, it was also only a duology at the time. So I'm not sure.
I could add a note with something like "The duology was later expanded with the release of Dark Ages"?Vestigium Leonis (talk) 10:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Done I referred to the latest mainline titles, which should be fine and reflects the Kotaku source. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 12:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- "In March 2023, the game was officially released worldwide on Android and iOS" It's already established that the game was only released on Android and iOS (or at least developed for them). Also, consider putting the exact date since this is meant to be detailed article prose, and so that the infobox date listing is more clear.
- As a result, all development on Mighty Doom was halted, and the game was scheduled to shut down on 7 August 2024." The way this is worded right now demonstrates uncertainty behind whether or not it actually shut down on that date, please remove the "scheduled to".
- The reception section mentions heavy metal music. Is there any information regarding the creation of the soundtrack that could be added to Development and release?
- Unfortunately not. I was only able to find information from reliable sources about the game’s music in reviews. --Vestigium Leonis (talk) 11:26, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- The reception section being in active, present tense when the game is shut down strikes me as a bit off, but I don't know if it's a big deal or not.
- I looked for a similar article - Sonic Runners is a defunct mobile game and GA that uses past tense. I will take a look and adjust it then. Vestigium Leonis (talk) 11:26, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think I am done with the tense changes and hope I got them right. I'll wait for further comments on the open points above, thanks so far! Vestigium Leonis (talk) 12:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Images
[edit]- There are only two images in the article, being the cover art and a gameplay screenshot. Obviously justified, and they both have valid rationales.
Sources
[edit]Spotcheck coming soon.Spot checked certain uses of the following:- 3: Ok.
- 17: Looks good.
- 21: Ok.
- 24: Ok.
Final comments
[edit]Article seems fairly well researched and written, but there's a few minor prose things that I think need to be worked out. I'll be placing this on hold for now to give you time to address the above comments. λ NegativeMP1 23:06, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- Got caught up in some other things and forgot about this review for a bit, sorry. With all of my comments above already responded and the article looking good, I'm passing this now. Good job.
λ NegativeMP1 19:22, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by History6042 talk 10:47, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
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- ... that Mighty Doom featured a cartoonish aesthetic that contrasted with the dark, gritty tone of the mainline Doom series?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the story of Mighty Doom revolved around demons who took the protagonist's pet rabbit, Daisy? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that in the mobile game Mighty Doom, Doomguy appeared as Mini Slayer, a toy-like version of himself? Source: [3]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My second DYK. I probably need to clean this up a bit after submitting, not really good at dealing with the template.
Improved to Good Article status by Vestigium Leonis (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Vestigium Leonis (talk) 21:16, 10 June 2025 (UTC).
New enough criteria satisfied by being promoted to GA status on June 10. Article is long enough. Though I trust the GA review process to have ensured criteria 3 to 5 are met (article is well-sourced; presentable; hook is properly cited/sourced), I did go through these as well. These are met. Hooks are interesting and short enough. QPQ does not need to be done here. Only issue is ALT1 (and I believe ALT2?) would not be allowed as per supplementary rule C6. I think it's a silly rule that we should find a way to get rid of honestly, but as of now it is the guideline here. This however, does not apply to ALT0, which is good to go for the DYK section. I would only suggest that the promoter tweak it to read/link as: "... that Mighty Doom featured a cartoonish aesthetic that contrasted with the dark, gritty tone of the mainline Doom series?" Soulbust (talk) 22:08, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
References
- ↑ Joffard, Jerome (22 February 2023). "DOOM revient très bientôt avec un nouvel épisode… tout mignon" [DOOM is coming back very soon with a brand-new episode... all cute]. Jeuxvideo.com (in French). Archived from the original on 2 May 2023. Retrieved 2 May 2023.
Même si l'objectif reste toujours le même avec Mighty DOOM, à savoir détruire tous les démons qui tentent de vous barrer la route, ce jeu en destination des appareils iOS et Android arbore un tout nouveau style graphique. Comme en témoigne la bande-annonce disponible ci-dessus et les images ci-dessous, cette nouvelle direction artistique s'éloigne grandement de l'aspect crasseux et organique des opus canoniques, mais affiche fièrement un design cartoon particulièrement agréable à l'oeil.
[Even if the objective remains the same with Mighty DOOM, namely to destroy all the demons that try to block your path, this game intended for iOS and Android devices features an entirely new graphic style. As shown in the trailer available above and the images below, this new artistic direction greatly departs from the grimy and organic look of the main titles, but proudly displays a cartoon design that is particularly pleasing to the eye.] - ↑ Bonthuys, Darryn (21 February 2023). "Bethesda Announces Mighty Doom, A Top-Down And "Adorably Violent" Mobile Game". GameSpot. Archived from the original on 2 May 2023. Retrieved 2 May 2023.
- ↑ Minor, Jordan (8 May 2023). "Mighty Doom". PCMag. Archived from the original on 11 May 2023. Retrieved 11 May 2023.
Tense
[edit]So, I noticed there's some disagreement about the correct tense for the article. @NegativeMP1 explained it well in the edit summary. This is a defunct mobile game that is no longer playable. I previously asked for input at WikiProject Video games and ultimately decided to follow the example set by Sonic Runners during this article's GA review. Sonic Runners is another defunct mobile game with GA status, and its article handles tense the same way. Vestigia Leonis (talk) 10:27, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Am I recalling it incorrectly, or was it the other way around a while back? That it is a defunct game that is no longer available, like a piece of lost art. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 10:48, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- MOS:VGTENSE states "Use the present tense when describing a subject that continues to exist. For example, a 1984 video game and console both continue to exist as long as copies of both are in circulation, but both a canceled video game and a discontinued online game exist only in the past tense". It then gives an example of this: "Glitch was a browser-based massively multiplayer online game launched in 2011 and discontinued the next year". Unless I am misinterpreting the text here I'm pretty sure treating this game as in the past tense is fair. λ NegativeMP1 18:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Soetermans I'm not sure if this was different in the past, as I haven't worked on many defunct games. But based on the excerpt from the MOS above, we should be fine with the current version. Vestigia Leonis (talk) 09:06, 29 June 2025 (UTC)