Talk:Methernitha

Free energy device

I do not remember where, but I remember reading somewhere that a person examined the free energy device and determined that it is actually powered by a radioactive radium "battery" -for lack of a better term, which does not violate the conservation of matter/energy. Does anyone have any information on this?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.123.165.106 (talk • contribs) 07:51, August 6, 2008‎ (UTC)

There are plenty of theories to exactly how the machine is working, 76.123.165.106, but since the group is no longer willing to share any information about it its hard to be sure. Btw I have never heard of any radioactive battery technology attempted officially, but I guess that would be too valuable to be released...--Nabo0o (talk) 23:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Perpetual motion impossible

Because 'free energy' (better known as perpetual motion) is impossible, it can be assumed that the group is lying; how very un-christian of them. It is interesting that their official contact address seems to be shared by a solar-energy company. However, the simplest way of finding out the truth would be (if they are really a legally registered entity) to check their published accounts and see how much they spend on electric power.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.139.239 (talk • contribs) 12:53, April 7, 2010‎ (UTC)

The "Testatika" device

I judge incredible that a source of truths and facts as Wikipedia does not include a dedicated entry for the Testatika device. Far from labeling it as a genuine invention or scam (but if it was a scam it had been a very popular one in the 90s worth a dedicated entry), the *facts* are that, unlike most so called "free energy" devices, nobody ever managed to demonstrate it was a fraud. I read a book (currently in Italian only, sadly) by the Italian writer Elena Novaretti (Tutta la Verità sul caso Testatika, ISBN-10 ‎8868320665) containing a long and very detailed story of this invention, complete of documented sources and facts. A volounteer should really take care of writing a relevant Wikipedia entry imho since this is *history* 87.9.52.199 (talk) 18:06, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

There are plenty of studies of this fraudulent device. However, I consider those studies to be themselves pseudoscientific, and I do not respect Wikipedia as being a reliable source of information, so you will have to find the information for yourself. 78.145.10.148 (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

You should really mention such studies. To date, I failed to find a demonstration it was a fraud. From several written reports and European magazines, it seems that a lot of people not connected to Methernitha (scientists, pseudo-scientists, enthusiasts or just curious people) saw these machines with their eyes in person while they were working, and a couple of Swiss electronic engineers could even take one small machine apart and they could not find any battery or other tricks. Also a Swiss engineer formerly employed at RCA labs, author of several patents (definitely not a braggart or pseudo-scientist) could see a working machine in person and could find no trick. Simply there is a lot of misinformation about this story, that's why you should read the book I mentioned above and all the sources cited by the author. Marinov also, who ok was a pseudo-scientist, saw two little machines working with his eyes, he was not a reliable scientist but he also saw the machines for sure. And pay attention that neither mr. Baumann nor Methernitha ever dared defining their invention "perpetual motion" ! They always stated honestly they somehow "extract electricity from the air", so supposedly from air ions - which is not pseudo-science, simply, nobody accomplished to do that to date. It was Marinov who insisted calling them "perpetual motion machines", but later in life he retracted this stubborn statement. So defining these machines "fraudolent" is plain misinformation. But, again, even in case they were a fraud (but it seems not), it was a popular one nonetheless, and Wikipedia MUST reserve an entry ! Creating a Wikipedia page properly is definitely beyond my capability (too complicated), otherwise I'd at least add a stub. 78.213.151.144 (talk) 19:07, 15 August 2025 (UTC)