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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Mgnbar in topic The original date of the eponymous essay

Re: Cassandra among the creeps

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Interesting that I have just been reading a news article about the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard libel case. Comments on that article assert as fact that it's a terrible injustice that women's accusations of domestic abuse are automatically believed, and that it's difficult to get across the fact that men can be victims of domestic abuse. But as we are living in the world where Brett Kavanaugh can be elected to the supreme court despite credible accusations of attempted rape against him, and rape and abuse trials are very difficult to bring and have a low conviction rate, I don't recognise the world this person says we live in. --PaulHammond (talk) 08:06, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

The original date of the eponymous essay

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Why is it titled as "Men Explain Things to Me (2014)" here while other Wikipedias date it as 2008 (Italian, Hebrew) and it is indeed referenced as being first published on TomDispatch in 2008 (although the links given only date August 19, 2012 while the intro on TomDispatch calls it "site favourite" and "classic" "with a new introduction", so if the original version with an exact date is available anywhere, I'd like to see a reference)? Shouldn't it be redated in the article? I'd say the 2008 date is, all in all, beyond doubt. --Ehitaja (talk) 12:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Ah, found a copy of the original text dated 13 April 2008, although that's already from Los Angeles Times. --Ehitaja (talk) 13:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
Each essay is labeled with an "official" year, but it's not clear where any of these official years come from.
At a bare minimum, you could add a sentence to that essay's subsection, saying that a version appears in the LA Times (a Wikipedia:Reliable source) as early as 2008. Mgnbar (talk) 13:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply