Talk:Meena

Wrong information about my community

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My name is Rohit Meena

I belong to Meena community. I had read this whole article and I found that this article is spreading totally wrong information about my community. So please re-edit or delete this article.

I am providing some reliable sources and requesting you to re-edit or delete this article.

All the sources are reliable which I provided.

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1. Meena is not a sub group of bhils. Meena and bhil are different community.

https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66

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Meena is a sub-group of Bhils, an ethnic group in western India.It used to be claimed they speak Mina language.

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Meena is a ruling and warrior[ Kshtriya ] caste. They ruled many regions in Rajasthan before Rajputs.

https://indianmeena.wordpress.com/2019/12/07/main-kingdoms-of-meenas/

https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/amagarh-fort-rajasthan/print_manually

2. Meena is not a lower caste. Remove the image from reservation section that Meena's,Hindoos of lower caste. And calling Meena's hindoos of lower caste also goes against SC/ST Act 1989. https://www.indiacode.nic.in/handle/123456789/1920?sam_handle=123456789/1362

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Remove the image from Reservation section as it goes against SC/ST Act 1989.

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The Meena fall into the Scheduled Tribe category in the state of Rajasthan and the majority of them are classified as being Hindu, but in Madhya Pradesh Meena are recognised as a Scheduled Tribe only in Sironj Tehsil, Vidisha, while in the other 44 districts of the state they are categorised as Other Backward Classes.It has been proposed that the Meenas be fully recognised as a Scheduled Tribe in Madhya Pradesh. The proposal is being considered by the Government of India. In Uttar Pradesh, Meena are considered migrated from Rajasthan and have been living in western districts of Mathura, Sambhal and Budaun since many generations. At par their origin they are granted a Scheduled tribe status in the state of Uttar Pradesh. In Haryana they are classified as Other Backward Classes.In Maharashtra also Meenas come under the Other Backward Classes.

In Rajasthan, the Meena caste members oppose the entry of Gurjars into Scheduled Tribe fold, fearing that their own share of Scheduled Tribe reservation benefits will be eroded.

They celebrate Meenesh Jayanti on the third day of the Chaitra month's Shukla paksha. Rohitys (talk) 02:46, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Likely sockpuppetry behaviour, SPI filed. -Lemonaka‎ 09:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

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Firstly, Meena And bhil Mina are two different tribes and cannot be termed as subgroup of and another. Check the official categorization here on of the state government - https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66

And reservation is based on the fact they were tribes and not that they were low caste.

https://vikaspedia.in/social-welfare/scheduled-tribes-welfare/scheduled-tribes-in-india

And you can see in this post that high-caste people can be ST and in lot of places in India Bhramins are also in ST. And meenas have back in past been ruler of Rajasthan, they are actually a warrior, farming tibe. https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-be-an-ST-and-be-a-Brahmin/answer/Saurabh-Tomar-25?ch=17&oid=51611639&share=5f3de910&srid=uy8Bx&target_type=answer

Kindly remove that photo mentioning low caste hindoos, under reservation section as caste don't play any role in getting reservation. Meenas reservation is based on tribal status. And that photo is of british era. Meenas were part of 42nd deoli regiment and also had waged war/ mutiny against the British demonic rule, so the British had no incentive of portraying them as good and therefore pointed out them as low caste hindoos. Kindly remove that picture or give proper analysis as it denigrades the image of Meena community. Rohitys (talk) 04:23, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Likely sockpuppetry behaviour, SPI filed. -Lemonaka‎ 09:09, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

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I belong to Meena community. I had read this whole article and I found that this article is spreading totally wrong information about my community. So please re-edit or delete this article.

I am providing some reliable sources and requesting you to re-edit or delete this article.

Here is the list what to edit-

1. Meena is not a sub group of bhils. Meena and bhil are different community.

https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66

Change

Meena is a sub-group of Bhils, an ethnic group in western India.It used to be claimed they speak Mina language.

To

Meena is a ruling and warrior[ Kshtriya ] caste. They ruled many regions in Rajasthan before Rajputs.

https://indianmeena.wordpress.com/2019/12/07/main-kingdoms-of-meenas/

https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/amagarh-fort-rajasthan/print_manually

2. Meena is not a lower caste. Remove the image from reservation section that Meena's,Hindoos of lower caste. And calling Meena's hindoos of lower caste also goes against SC/ST Act 1989. https://www.indiacode.nic.in/handle/123456789/1920?sam_handle=123456789/1362

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Remove the image from Reservation section as it goes against SC/ST Act 1989.

To

The Meena fall into the Scheduled Tribe category in the state of Rajasthan and the majority of them are classified as being Hindu, but in Madhya Pradesh Meena are recognised as a Scheduled Tribe only in Sironj Tehsil, Vidisha, while in the other 44 districts of the state they are categorised as Other Backward Classes.It has been proposed that the Meenas be fully recognised as a Scheduled Tribe in Madhya Pradesh. The proposal is being considered by the Government of India. In Uttar Pradesh, Meena are considered migrated from Rajasthan and have been living in western districts of Mathura, Sambhal and Budaun since many generations. At par their origin they are granted a Scheduled tribe status in the state of Uttar Pradesh. In Haryana they are classified as Other Backward Classes.In Maharashtra also Meenas come under the Other Backward Classes.

In Rajasthan, the Meena caste members oppose the entry of Gurjars into Scheduled Tribe fold, fearing that their own share of Scheduled Tribe reservation benefits will be eroded.

They celebrate Meenesh Jayanti on the third day of the Chaitra month's Shukla paksha. 152.58.185.45 (talk) 12:04, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Suspected sockpuppet, report filed ARandomName123 (talk) 22:24, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

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calling meenas hindoos of lower caste voilets sc/st act 1989. https://www.indiacode.nic.in/handle/123456789/1920?sam_handle=123456789/1362

so please remove that image from reservation section. Misterherooo (talk) 05:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Suspected sockpuppet, report filed. DreamRimmer (talk) 07:39, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=a7BBAYDfoAIC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=true

Kindly make these changes-

1) Only a certain caste of Meenas were denotified as criminals, that is Chowkidar Meenas(mina) and not other ones.

2) Bhill and Meenas are two different tribes, i have earlier given government articles… now i am going to post a book source with detailed study, reaffirming the same. And in that you would find that Meenas are high in socio-hierarchy. (Pg 99 top paragraph)

3)Kindly remove that low caste hindoos picture, as that is not right, meenas as a tribe has many sub clans, so that picture is not doing justice, as at that time chowkidar meenas particularly were at fight against britishers and so someone clicked pictures in Delhi in 1880s, where as meenas are natively from Rajasthan which is like 300 Km, so at that time the photographer taker might mistakenly notified them as low caste hindoos and also since the chowkidar meenas were in mutiny against britisher. So kindly take that down, it is wrong.

In the book page number 102 first paragraph you will find clearly that Meenas smoke and eat together with Jats and Gurjars. Also have acceptance in clean higher caste system.

TheRealAnalysis (talk) 20:12, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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The image you are using is of bhil meenas not meenas And both community are different. https://sje.rajasthan.gov.in/Default.aspx?PageID=66

Please edit

Change EMuseumPlus (2).jpg to RegiMeena.jpg

All source are reliable. Please edit Immortalgully (talk) 06:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Suspected sockpuppet, report filed. -Lemonaka‎ 08:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

https://books.google.co.in/books?id=a7BBAYDfoAIC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=true

Kindly make these changes-

1) Only a certain caste of Meenas were denotified as criminals, that is Chowkidar Meenas(mina) and not other ones.

2) Bhill and Meenas are two different tribes, i have earlier given government articles… now i am going to post a book source with detailed study, reaffirming the same. And in that you would find that Meenas are high in socio-hierarchy. (Pg 99 top paragraph)

3)Kindly remove that low caste hindoos picture, as that is not right, meenas as a tribe has many sub clans, so that picture is not doing justice, as at that time chowkidar meenas particularly were at fight against britishers and so someone clicked pictures in Delhi in 1880s, where as meenas are natively from Rajasthan which is like 300 Km, so at that time the photographer taker might mistakenly notified them as low caste hindoos and also since the chowkidar meenas were in mutiny against britisher. So kindly take that down, it is wrong.

In the book page number 102 first paragraph you will find clearly that Meenas smoke and eat together with Jats and Gurjars. Also have acceptance in clean higher caste system.

TheRealAnalysis (talk) 20:12, 21 May 2023 (UTC)