Talk:Matzpen

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Neutral point of view?

I added the POV-check tag because I belive there are several statementrs that are not neutral. Especially in the Red Front trial section. Bob (talk) 20:34, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Can you point to the statements in that section that you find to be non-neutral? Looking at it, it seems to me to be very factual and accurate, and any POV statements regarding their motivations are clearly ascribed to the defendants, rather than being written in Wikipedia's neutral voice. RolandR (talk) 22:13, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

this reply does have the unintended consequence of evoking hilarity. The section in question reads collaboration with 'the enemy.' The failure to pick up the objection on this point should fairly be seen as a cause for a permanent denial of further wikipedia editorship 84.213.82.142 (talk) 16:08, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Have I got this right? Some random IP, with no other edits to its credit, calls for me to be permanently blocked on the basis of a talk page edit I made more than nine years ago, in which I ask another editor to explain the reason for an NPOV tag. What a preposterous suggestion! RolandR (talk) 18:00, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2014

At the bottom of the page under the heading External Links the hyperlink to the documentary "Matzpen" is broken.

I believe that the documentary is now hosted on YouTube @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcFno2pqJg

92.40.31.85 (talk) 18:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

 Done It appears the link is correct. — Parent5446 ☯ ^{(msg email)} 20:02, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Still looking for a publisher?

In the Origin section, there is a reference which may no longer be accurate:

[... the book] Peace, peace and there is no peace - an English translation was completed in 2009, and the authors are looking for a publisher.

Is this still the case? Worth fixing, if not. Otherwise, it should be "...an English translation was completed in 2009, unpublished, as of August 2016". Volker Siegel (talk) 13:12, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I have amended the text, including a link to the online translation at Aki Orr's site. RolandR (talk) 11:49, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

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Plagiarism

The Red Front trial section is partially plagiarized/closely paraphrased from this article: https://www.academia.edu/1229395/Socialist_Anti_Zionism_a_chapter_in_the_history_of_the_left_in_Israel_Palestine?auto=download Prezbo (talk) 09:41, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

I have reason to believe that the editor responsible for this addition to the Wikipedia article, Rangreen, is the same person as the academic Ran Greenstein who wrote the journal article, which was published at the same time as the Wikipedia edits. Is it plagiarism if an academic writes the same material in Wikipedia and a journal? And if so, how do we establish whether he plagiarised the Wikipedia article for his academic article, or plagiarised his academic article for Wikipedia? RolandR (talk) 00:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

That makes sense. I don’t know the Wikipedia policy but if it’s a situation of someone reusing their own external work on here then I’m not concerned about it. Prezbo (talk) 00:27, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Derech ha-Nitzotz

In the article says "In 1995 former members of Derech ha-Nitzotz established the Da'am Workers Party, which remains active to this day." - but that paragraph comes from nowhere, because there is no more references in the article to Derech ha-Nitzotz and its relation with Matzpen. MiguelMadeira (talk) 04:41, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

The split which led to the formation of the Nitzotz group is mentioned, with a footnote, in the first paragraph of the section Splits and debates. RolandR (talk) 22:39, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Derech ha-Nitzotz is the Nitzotz in "Avangard also underwent splits, which saw the formation of the Spartacist League in 1974 and the Nitzotz group in 1977"? MiguelMadeira (talk) 01:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

New Matzpen, or Matzpen-Tech unconnected?

"the Negev-based civil society group AJEEC-NISPED, which founded Matzpen-Tech..."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-violent-crime-soars-arabs-see-jobs-training-as-key-to-getting-youth-off-streets/ Arminden (talk) 09:04, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

Absolutely no connection. Matzpen is Hebrew for "compass", so it is not uncommon as a corporate or commercial name. RolandR (talk) 22:20, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Edit request 3 May 2026

Description of suggested change:

Footnote 6 includes links to the old version of the Matzpen site which no longer exists. Please change to the correct document: https://matzpen.org/english/1969-01-01/down-with-the-occupation/

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Yuval Pilavsky (talk) 01:56, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Comment:I cannot found the source to be replaced, can you provide that link of the source, which has to be replaced? PhantomVortex (Contact here) 08:07, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

This source code:

Should be replaced by this code:

Yuval Pilavsky (talk) 09:30, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

Original page is already archived and saved, not prone to link rot.Thus, not require any other page. PhantomVortex (Contact here) 09:33, 3 May 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: per the above response. Day Creature (talk) 17:14, 3 May 2026 (UTC)