Talk:Matthew 5
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POV
[edit]POV issues of this article is discussed at another in the series. See Talk:Matthew 1 ~~~~ 20:17, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
survey
[edit]For a (now finished) July 2005 survey about whether or not the full source text should be included in the article see Wikipedia:Bible source text.
There were 36 non-abstaining votes, and 3 abstensions.
The result of the survey was a 70% vote that it should not be included in the text, and should be removed in favour of a link to the text at wikisource. ~~~~ 07:51, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
- More than that, several of the should be included votes say that as much biblical text should be included as is needed to make sense of the entry. Pilatus 17:18, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
Treating the Sermon on the Mount an an integral unit
[edit]I feel that the Sermon on the Mount should be treated as one unit instead of subdividing the discussion into chapters of 5 to 7. Certainly the text itself views it an one unit. The Sermon on the Mount starts in 5:2 as "And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying" and ends with in 7:28 with "And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine." Pilatus 14:42, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
- The literature on the Sermon on the Mount is vast, it is certainly possible to have a main article, three articles on subsections, and the hundred or so articles on each verse without a great deal of overlap. - SimonP 14:45, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
- I feel that using chapters as subsections is a bit artificial - typically each chapter of the gospels contains two or three subheadings, some important, some less so. Pilatus 15:07, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
- I agree that it is completely artificial, but it is also a set standard for dividing the Bible. One that has held for many centuries. = SimonP 15:52, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Chapters and verses are useful for references, however they are not encyclopedic topics. The heading Benedictions is immensely more appropiate than Matthew 5:1-12. 129.215.194.206 17:14, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
- This issue is much discussed please see Wikipedia:Merge/Bible verses, for instance. - SimonP 18:31, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Chapters and verses are useful for references, however they are not encyclopedic topics. The heading Benedictions is immensely more appropiate than Matthew 5:1-12. 129.215.194.206 17:14, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
- I agree that it is completely artificial, but it is also a set standard for dividing the Bible. One that has held for many centuries. = SimonP 15:52, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
- I feel that using chapters as subsections is a bit artificial - typically each chapter of the gospels contains two or three subheadings, some important, some less so. Pilatus 15:07, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
- The literature on the Sermon on the Mount is vast, it is certainly possible to have a main article, three articles on subsections, and the hundred or so articles on each verse without a great deal of overlap. - SimonP 14:45, August 4, 2005 (UTC)