Talk:Many-colored fruit dove

Names

Is Manuma and Manumea in refrence to the many-colored fruit dove or the tooth-billed pigeon. Or is just manumea in reference to the tooth-billed pigeon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marshmallo3535 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Manuma redirect

With the similarities of manuma and manumea and how I have seen places like the Cambridge Press and The Atlantic call the manumea the manuma, should we add a note or remove the redirect? Marshmallo3535 (talk) 16:36, 31 July 2021 (UTC)Marshmallow3535

Manuma bird

This bird was originally known as "Manuma". Because of white supremacy, however, the name of the bird changed. Because of this, isn't it a better idea to refer to this bird as a "Manuma"? That's already it's name in its native Samoan, so why not adopt their name for it, rather than a colonial title such as the lazy "Many-colored fruit dove"? BradyBoyer2 (talk) 04:19, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place to platform your own beliefs. To my knowledge, in English, many-colored fruit dove is more often used than manuma. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 16:11, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

To "your knowledge?" Show me some data then. BradyBoyer2 (talk) 17:42, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Based off of the sources in the article:

• Pacific bird conservation, National Parks Traveler, The Atlantic, and Merriam-Webster uses manuma (4/12)
• IUCN, Pacific bird conservation, National Parks Traveler, World Species, Avibase, The Atlantic, Cornell Lab, DataZone, Oiseaux, and Paleontology Database uses many-colored fruit dove (10/12)
• IUCN, Pacific bird conservation, World Species, Avibase, Merriam-Webster, Cornell Lab, DataZone, Oiseaux, and Paleontology Database use Ptilinopus perousii (9/12)

Also, many times many-colored fruit dove is given as the primary common name while manuma is used as a secondary or local name. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 17:54, 27 December 2025 (UTC)

Adding on, the Atlantic confuses the manuma's and manumea's Somoan names, conflating the two. As a result, I would consider that usage to be dubious (though it does reference the fruit dove later in the article). Merriam-Webster also is somewhat questionable towards supporting the widespread usage of manuma as the cited article is specifically the word manuma. ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2025 (UTC)