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The movie Mankurt is redirected to Mankurt (1990 film). This (Mankurt) is a common term of Turkic Mythology. Buzancar (talk) 11:56, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
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Literary invention, or older legend? Sources!
[edit]All the main sources sources are left completely opaque to non-Russian-speakers: most details are left untranslated (titles, publishers, etc.) and have no enWiki articles. As a result, there's no way an editor or user can assess how plausible and trustworthy they are. This is highly relevant - it always is, but here even more so, as Wiki articles in other languages, based on similarly intransparent sources, are claiming the exact opposite: the existence of an old Turkic legend.
Actually, the only Western source, quoted as the 6th one in the article, contradicts the definition from the introductory paragraph, which cites two Russian-language sources. In this, 6th source, we have "The mankurt motif, taken from Central Asian lore..." (Shneidman). Whom to trust?
Result: I can't trust the definition from the lead. Highly frustrating. Arminden (talk) 16:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Whose "common parlance"?
[edit]"it has become a term in common parlance" - does this mean in common parlance in Russian? If so, shouldn't it say so? I've certainly never heard anyone use the word in English.
HairyDan (talk) 19:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. - Altenmann >talk 19:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- The same phrase, in its original form, is repeated in the section on Usage (which is now its only occurrence). I will fix it there, as the current wording is misleading. HairyDan (talk) 19:37, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
Mankurt
[edit]In Turkish language this is an ancient concept referring to slaves made into zombies to obey the Khan Cryptohydrate (talk) 21:57, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- No such thing. Do not believe Quora :-) --Altenmann >talk 22:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
@Antonissimo@Altenmann At first I didn't think it was relevant, either, but then I saw that mankurts have "camel skin wrapped around their heads" and the skins dry tight, causing brain damage. pitchcapping was a real form of torture that involved damaging the head in a certain way, so there is a case to be made about how they share some features in common. In general, I don't care if it's there or not, but I do think it's not completely out of left field now... Slava570 (talk) 21:25, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- It's a bit of a stretch. Does pitchcapping create zombies? Are mankurts made as punishment? —Antonissimo (talk) 22:41, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- Your questions irrelevant. The similarity is in "forcing a pitch-soaked cloth or cap onto the scalp" . If you do not see similarity, this is your problem, because 3 editors apparently see it. --Altenmann >talk 02:22, 7 May 2026 (UTC)