Talk:Manhattan

GA Reassessment

Manhattan

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:39, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

There are uncited statements in the article, including entire paragraphs. At almost 12,000, this article is too detailed and WP:TOOBIG. Spinning out and trimming prose can possibly begin with the sections that have a "too detailed" yellow banner on top of them. Z1720 (talk) 18:40, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

A ridiculously embarrassing problem is that it's claimed since 2007 that Manhattan Island's 22.7 square miles while it claimed for over a decade that Manhattan (borough)/New York County land area's 22.83mi² even though the borough+county includes other land which can't possibly sum to ≤0.185 mi² which is the max possible (22.835-22.65) and no one ever complained. These are likely both borough land maybe counting piers and/or water level differently as I once cut a map of Manhattan that didn't seem naked eye fucked up (many are) into 1 mile squares and leftovers cut to pack 1 mile squares and got something like 17 mi². Whether that includes lakes or not (I don't remember) that's still way under 22.65. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 19:56, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

There's no way in hell Roosevelt Island, Wards Island, Randalls Island, Liberty Island, Ellis Island, Governors Island, U Thant Island, Mill Rock & Marble Hill sum to 0.185 mi² they're effing huge in fact Wards and Randalls Island alone is 0.81 mi² (consistent with its dimensions eyeballing it), Governors Island's 172 acres (172/640 mi²), Roosevelt Island's 0.23 mi² & Marble Hill's 0.145 mi². Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 20:01, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

As hard as it may be to believe, land areas are always being remeasured and they constantly change. The 2024 County Gazetteer File for New York State lists a land area of 22.658 square miles for New York County / Manhattan. We can dig further and analyze the Census Bureau's data for Manhattan island and all of the other islands / land masses in New York County / Manhattan Borough, but it's little surprise that there are differences between data from different sources calculated at different times using different techniques. Where there are such discrepancies, they should be appropriately noted, but they are not necessarily indicative of "a ridiculously embarrassing problem". Alansohn (talk) 13:03, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

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"New York, New York" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect New York, New York has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 March 15 § New York, New York until a consensus is reached. Epicgenius (talk) 04:07, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Overlinking of NYC?

I understand that MOS:OVERLINK actually cites NYC as an example of something that may be overlinked. That being said, I think this recent edit takes things a bit too far. I would understand not linking NYC in an article about a random thing not related to the city. However, this is one of the five boroughs of NYC (and as such is a first-level administrative subdivision of the city). I would therefore say that New York City, far from being an overlink, must be linked in this context, as the link is directly relevant to the topic of the article. – Epicgenius (talk) 04:01, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

Concur. Fully. oknazevad (talk) 12:53, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Lede name

I personally believe we should change the lede name from just "Manhattan" to its official name of the Borough of Manhattan with an {{efn}} tag that says "Also known as New York County", any opinions? shane (talk to me if you want!) 12:30, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

I think the current wording, stating how Manhattan and New York County are coextensive, is better. New York County isn't just another name for Manhattan, it's a particular subdivision of the state. The two aren't the same legal entity exactly, and stating they're just different names obscures that. oknazevad (talk) 12:57, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Indian references badly phrased; confusing?

I admit I am no American Indian expert, but do others feel, as I do, that the exposition in the intro and body don't really align and if we're being %100, feels like not much care or attention is afforded relevant information. Nathanieldjenkins (talk) 08:27, 2 July 2026 (UTC)