Talk:Manetho

Article Draft:Aegyptiaca is up

I think it deserves its own page, and more importantly, that it be started from scratch with the Verbrugghe/Wickersham research to structure it, at least to get started. As I said, I've got online to access to the relevant section so can at least make a rudimentary outline of their own position. There are also basic questions that I see lay persons like myself have about transmission and historicity that I think the current section only makes more muddy that I think can be better explained and answered. Cobalt blur (talk) 16:50, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

Image dispute

It looks like the image commonly used for Manetho is in dispute now. Granted it likely doesn't depict him, but I don't think it warrants removal unless a agreement with the community is made. 129.89.234.100 (talk) 15:10, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

It definitely does not depict him. The rationale for including it is that it purportedly represents the insignia of a priest of Serapis, though I don't even know whether that is true, and it's not clear whether Manetho was an actual priest of Serapis in any case. Moreover, when an image appears in the lead of a biographical article, readers will expect it to depict the subject of the article. I just don't see a reason to include it. A. Parrot (talk) 16:13, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

I agree with A. Parrot, if the image is at the top and made the thumbnail many readers skimming through the article will not read the caption and just assume it is a bust of Manetho, I know I did the first few times I was on this article. I am however, open to the possibility of moving the image to somewhere else in the article. PharaohCrab (talk) 14:02, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm partial to using the image, and hoped that the disclaimer in the caption would suffice to justify using it. I think Manetho the man and historical figure merits some token representation, whatever it is. I believe that evidence shows that the bust of the priest can be a plausible representation of an Egyptian religious elite of Manetho's time. As for moving it further down, I understand the argument in favor. I'm the editor who put it back on top so I'll abstain from any straw poll. Cobalt blur (talk) 16:10, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Changes to "Contents" section and images

I replaced the existing "Contents" which was unsourced with a new brief synopsis with source/citations and breakdown by Volume/Dynasties/Periods for easy reference. I also removed the anachronistic painting depicting the arrival Ptolemy. I believe it does not belong in this article as it is, again, entirely anachronistic (painted 19th. century) and does not purport to depict Manetho or any representation of an Egyptian priest of this era. Cobalt blur (talk) 18:13, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Continuing work on "Manetho" and "Draft:Aegyptiaca"

I'm really trying to organize the "Manetho" article to keep the focus on Manetho the author and his body of work as it exists in fragments. I do anticipate the Aegyptiaca article in draft form being published soon, and so have streamlined the section in "Manetho" on that single work. There is more to expand in "Manetho", particularly on fragmentology, the classification of his fragments, testimony (attestation), sources of fragments other than the four most-discussed, and the German sources (Felix Jacoby notably) of Verbrugghe and Wickersham. Cobalt blur (talk) 04:14, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

"Aegyptiaca" main article is live!

Go see it: Aegyptiaca (Manetho)

I added a section on fragment scholarship and cut down the section on Aegyptiaca, added a link to main article. Cobalt blur (talk) 04:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)