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@Vif12vf: How is it not homogeneous? Because AFAIK, they are pretty much united on social issues. I haven't found any source in which they are divided. I live in the Philippines and watch and read news everyday, and I always pay attention when it's about Makabayan. And so far, I haven't heard about a Makabayan representative who dissented against the majority of their organization. pandakekok9 (talk) 03:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Remember that you being pinoy does not matter here, because you are not allowed to use yourself as a source. The thing about the ideology-section is that when i made it i had to base it off of what information has about the different party-lists, in which case only progressivism and left-wing nationalism appears among multiple lists. The rest only appears in the article of the party-lists who focuses on specifically on these issues. If the entire coalition shares all of these focuses and more that we don't already have, you have to find reliable third-party sources and preferably add them to the articles of the relevant party-lists. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 13:12, 27 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Party-lists

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if i calculated it correctly it should be (going by Kabataan, GABRIELLA, ACT, Bayan Muna & Anakpawis):

  • 2022: 1592394 (4.33%)
  • 2019: 2304518 (8.27%)
  • 2016: 3822909 (11.76%)
  • 2013: 2787357 (10.06%)
  • 2010: 2995732 (9.96%)

@Bertotits23 and Rizalninoynapoleon: Braganza (talk) 08:17, 12 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

with PISTON it is
  • 2016: 3912293 (12.04%)
  • 2013: 2962333 (10.69%)
Braganza (talk) 09:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
this should now be correct with Akap Bata, Migrante & Katribu Braganza (talk) 09:46, 12 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Bias in recent edits

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Some heavy anti-Makabayan bias in recent edits to the page.

  • Lots of heavy emphasis on Makabayan's controversies, not much on their policy achievements.
  • Heavy original research and original research-type political analysis in the 2025 election.
  • The way the entire section is worded seems to imply that Makabayan is somehow hypocritical in its decisions (lots of Makabayan was against X, despite Y). Definitely a WP:NPOV violation.
  • A more minor issue: Makabayan's history should start after 2009, since the party was formed then. The only thing that should be cited is that Makabayan was formed out of an alliance of political parties.

I'll be editing out some of the more flagrant original research/analysis stuff, but it's a big write-up, so I might miss some things. Blubits (talk) 06:13, 31 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Party vis a vis Coalition vis a vis Organization

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The current draft of the article says Makabayan is a party, while Kabataan, Gabriela, and ACT Teachers are described as "party list organizations." But doesn't the name itself say that Makabayan is a coalition, and aren't Kabataan, Gabriela, and ACT Teachers parties in their own right? I am not an expert on this topic, but I think this needs to be clarified by those who know more about the coalition. - MistahPeemayer (talk) 17:14, 9 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Kabataan, Gabriela, and ACT Teachers are party-list organizations. Party-list organizations can be parties in their own right, like Akbayan, but they don't have to, like the relationship between Mamamayang Liberal and the Liberal Party.
All three party-list organizations do not run candidates under their respective banners. In the 2025 election, candidates from Gabriela and ACT Teachers ran under the banner of Makabayan. So it would be more appropriate to classify Kabataan, Gabriela, and ACT Teachers as sectoral party-list organizations that unite under one coalition, and choose to field candidates for non-party-list positions in office under the coalition. Blubits (talk) 01:57, 8 January 2026 (UTC)Reply