Talk:Mainz

Pronunciation

Two variants are given for the pronunciation of the name. But it is hard to see what the difference is. --Alazon (talk) 19:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Excessive citation needed tags

Dear user:Alexandermcnabb, I noticed you made recent edits, mostly to tag following lines with citation needed. This is very excessive and you shouldn't tag every line in the paragraph, instead, just tag the end of the paragraph.

On the other hand, what you didn't like is actually common sense and needs a look on a map. What citation do we need, do you have eyes and could you see? I believe, some people on Wikipedia miss the point of referencing. It's like tagging the sentence, the sun rises from the east^{[citation needed]}. We are not robots. The sentences you tagged are not controversial political arguments. Thanks. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 01:08, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I hope you understand German as I cited that S8 trains and others take about 25 minutes! --Mahmudmasri (talk) 01:32, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Any factual statement should be referenced. Any unreferenced claim of fact is OR - Original Research. Just because you believe/'know' a thing to be fact doesn't mean it belongs in WP without a reference to a Reliable Source - WP:RS. Simple as that. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 19:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Ripuarian

"Mainz spoke a dialect termed Ripuarian."

• That lacks the page.
• ripuarisch/Ripuarisch only occurs on p. 73 in a totally unrelated context (and on p. 254 in the title of another work cited).
• On p. 133 it is: "Da allerdings die Untersuchungsorte Wittlich und Mainz sprachsystemisch verschiedene n Großarealen zuzuordnen sind (moselfränkisches Wittlich vs. rheinfränkisches Mainz) [...]", i.e. Rhine Franconian Mainz.

--21:54, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Free City Of Mainz into Mainz

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The majority voted against merging. The other article should become more detailed about the historic timespan, while this article should become more of a summarized style of content regarding it. Kissaki (talk) 15:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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Can be included in Mainz's history, unless substantial content is added to justify separate page Broc (talk) 09:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

This is just a first draft, I am working on some edits on Notepad right now, Will reply soon,

Cheers, Arotparaarms (talk) 09:58, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Broc,

I just re-wrote the article, I don't think it should be moved now because of how different this article's history of mainz is and the article is now, please check it just in case though!

Cheers und Danke vielmals!, Arotparaarms (talk) 12:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Arotparaarms, how is your page different than Mainz#Christian Mainz, and why do you think it should have its separate page, given it has basically the same content?

On another note, does the foundational edit of the page you created consist of a copy of that chapter? Please have a look at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia: attribution always needs to be given, per Wikipedia's Creative Commons license.

My best suggestion: incorporate your edits into the main page, then turn Free City of Mainz into a redirect to Mainz#Christian Mainz. Broc (talk) 13:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

hmmm...... this really does needs to be discussed, I do think that you have a fair point... will look into it

Cheers, Arotparaarms (talk) 13:10, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

I am opposed to merging. The article Mainz should be written in WP:Summary style, with content about specific periods moved to sub-articles. —Kusma (talk) 09:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

@Kusma's argument is valid, we should write Mainz in Summary style,

Cheers once again, Arotparaarms (talk) 08:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge – As linked in this discussion, the history section contains the same information. I think the argument about summary style should be visited separately and after merging (/dropping Free City Of Mainz). A split of Mainz into summation and themed subpages is much more work, and the current Free City Of Mainz article is not in the correct form for that either (too specific/narrow). Kissaki (talk) 17:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Your argument is correct but instead of merging what we should do is improve the article instead of merging it all together. Arotparaarms (talk) 08:23, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

That makes sense. I'll strike through my Merge vote. Kissaki (talk) 09:13, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep separate, don't merge. Free City of Mainz has an analogous article on de.wiki, de:Freie Stadt Mainz, which suggests that this is a rational subtopics. Comparing that de article makes clear that there is more than enough material for a separate article on Free City of Mainz. Furius (talk) 08:04, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

• Agree - That's what I'm talking about, We should keep it seperate

Arotparaarms (talk) 08:25, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

So, End of Discussion? With all due respect @Broc, I believe there is a strong majority against Merging, it's a 1:4 ratio as far as now, and, I purposefully didn't add to the discussion to check if its an an active issue or not I think the discuss should end and we should embrace Free City Of Mainz as an article and write Mainz#Christian_Mainz AS WP:Summary, I will lend the discussion if there are no further comments after 2 days,

Cheers, Arotparaarms (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

• 12/Mar/24 - Tomorrow, 13/Mar, I will officially remove the 'Merge' banner on Free City Of Mainz, I think that the discussion has ended,

Cheers, Arotparaarms (talk) 08:34, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• (Side Note) I have moved the Merge Banner to the talk page of the article

Arotparaarms (talk) 08:45, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• CLOSED DISCUSSION

It's Over, It's over now....... By Over, I mean removing Every Reference to the merge in the ArticleArotparaarms (talk) 11:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

It's still in the article. What are you talking about? - I will clean it up and conclude this discussion correctly too. Kissaki (talk) 15:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.